Having put my views in many posts in this GD, now for the convenience of a totality, let me summarise my views on this GD topic.
I stand in view that Indian culture has its inbuilt mechanism to safe guard the pride of women provided the culture is followed sincerely.
@ Kalyani,in her opening post first itself (post no 97927 ) agreed with the topic statement when she said as opening lines "It is true that ours is a rich culture which safeguards the pride of women. But unfortunately this is not in practice by our people though it is in our culture." But unfortunately she contradicted herself and disputed my views when I explained that today our rich culture is not practiced at all today. Just to explain that, I mentioned some of the common identified symbols of our culture. So my stand that, it is not a fault of the culture itself, but the failure of people (both men and women) to follow and practice our culture is thus accepted by even those who expressly oppose it.
@ JyotiS who also have opposing views on my stand also indirectly lent support to my views by admitting that there were remedial measures available in tradition to solve problems faced by women-when she wrote in her post(no. 397974 ) that there used to be no concept of divorce in Hindu marriage but that does not means that every marriage was a successful one. What kept everything going smoothly was the support of the family for the women. There used to be 'panchayat' system where every dispute was resolved smoothly and the pride of a women kept intact."
@ R. Gautham Shenoy (post no. 397975) was forthrightly concurring with my views in his lines "I strongly believe that the pride of woman is safe guarded by the culture of India. Here both men and women should follow good culture to avoid these type of brutal attacks on woman."
@ Chitra Rana (post no. 398598) inter alia says about old Indian culture "I want to share my thought this is something we cannot follow".
So what is the point in expecting that something which cannot be followed can come to one's help? This again proves my stand that it is not the culture at fault, but our inability to follow the traditional culture.
@Saji Ganesh vide his post 398230 mentioned that
" You will find that there is an inherent quest for identity. Her pride will be safeguarded when she is considered as an individual. She feels bad when her identity is based on her relation with men."
Let me respond to this as:
This great country did not respect and accept great following legends and personalities by relating to any men. They had been and still being accepted and respected for their own accomplishment.
Jhansi Rani, Captain Lakshmi, Indira Gandhi, Sarojini Naidu, M.S.Subbulaksmi, and of those in current days, Speaker Meera Kumar, Ms Mayavati, Ms Jayalalitha, Lata Mangeshkar, Shabana Azmi, P Leela, P.Sushela, S.Janaki Shanaz Hussain, Chanda Kiochar. The list can go on..
In fact many of the readers will not even know any men related to them and know only the women for their abilities, leadership and contributions or posts they decorate.
As a last point to add more convincing to my stand, I put forth this:
Ayurvedic and other medicinal systems are I vogue and found useful to cure many illnesses . But unfortunately when a modern disease "HIV Aid" appeared on earth, none of these system had the cure for it. This is because, these medicine systems never expected such a disease , which is human made and spread by unbridled ways of ills and vices.
One cannot blame Allopathy or Homeopathy or Ayurveda that they cannot safeguard the patients.
However Ayurveda had a very good immunity giving medicine called 'Chyavanprasha". Ayurveda expects people to follow certain norms and guidelines. Ifpeople do not follow those guidelines and contract a very novel unthought of disease, how can the good system be blamed?
Alopathy doctors ahs asked people to use protection and desist from unknow relationships. Can someone say that it inhibits their freedom and by throwing it contract the disease? Is it prudent?
Same with our present case.
Saji Ganesh in his post mentioned "So, I think pride is something connected to freedom. It is related to a status where she rules without being questioned or guided. Now, this may be possible if we are to live as individuals, but certainly not when we are living as a family in a society."
My answer to this is:-
Yes ultimately it boils down to that. Freedom- freedom as thought by the individual women. I do not object to individual freedom. In fact that is necessary also. I disagree with only one point. That, the many women while demanding freedom do not want to be under any restrictions or controls, whatever that be.
Freedom without controls and restrictions is anarchy. This is true for a country and true for its people also. When women want some special considerations as indeed their problems are different from that of men, they also should follow restrictions also.
If one wants to keep his valuables safe, one has to keep it properly secured. Not listening to the safety instructions, but wanting the things to be safe is either foolish or just defiance. Both cannot be accepted as the consequence will be disastrous and they should be ready to face it without blaming about the instructions.
I request all the participants who argued that the Indian culture cannot safeguard the women's pride, to ensure they really follow the Indian culture. If then something goes wrong, only hen can they blame the culture.
This is like a blind person searching for a black cat in a dark room.
I think I have made myself clear..
My thanks to all participants .