This week, let us discuss about "Is the Brain Drain Good for India?".
Our present system of Education in India is considered as the best System of Education in the world. It has given many intelligent people to the world.
After completing their Education, People are often migrating to some other Western countries for Better package and for better working environment. This is due to some reasons like unemployment in our country.
The concept of Getting Educated from a country and earning for another country is known as brain drain.
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What brain-drain? If anything, there's a reverse brain-drain of sorts -with the changed business environment, many who went abroad, gained superior skills and knowledge that they are bringing back home to works in foreign and Indians MNCs, or starting their own businesses. In fact, a cursory glance at the number of priviliged IIT grads, will show that over 80% of them are into the 'business' or management field,
first i have to appreciate u for posting such a great topic that our nation is facing well now to talk about the going and settling abroad i would like to compare to previous situation and current situation~~!!!!
Previously talking about 10 - 15 years ego India had no good resources and job placements unemployment was the biggest problem not really many job openings ~~!!!
now industrially india had improved very far and many company from overseas has invested and investing in india and IT and other sectors has been such a big boom and job opening are always there and good pay ~~!!!!
and comparatively good life style to the developed countries like US and the European countries~~!!!
however salaries being paid high when on-site nevertheless staying in own nation has its own benefits
and our economic is doing better and better ~~!!!i would say stay india build our own heaven than searching for heaven else where~~!!!
and u know more the 10% of the scientist in NASA are INDIAN imaging what contribution they would have done to India if they were here and so do the others fields~!!!
chek de India~~!!
Brain Drain means highly talented and skilled people moving to other nations for better opportunity and better lifestyle. Mostly people were attracted to US for world's best universities, the most dynamic companies, the freest economic and social environment and the highest standard of living.
But now the trend has reversed.
Other countries are outsourcing jobs to India. Now India has many opportunities as Indian economy is growing fast. Standard of living has also improved over the years.
People do going abroad but to gain better knowledge and are coming back with fresh ideas and setting up new companies and providing job opportunities for many. Even those who were settled abroad for 10-15 years they are also coming back for better futute here.
So I agree with Shampa that instead of Brain Drain its now reverse Brain Drain.
Brain Drain is not the students practise it is the situation exists in our country for around many centuries. Also students are in a situation to get marks higher and higher , They are going to home with book burden and not a thought of research.'
So this issue cannot be solved may be some minor changes can be done
Brain drain- a big issue that we are facing currently has several layers to understand. First thing is that we will have to have radical changes in our educational systems. In this case we first have to redesign our syllabus for the current condition. Our most of the syllabus are oriented toward understanding what has happened I the past. It’s ok to have something like this but we should train our future citizens in terms of the future challenged that they are going to face. What will they do and how will they face theses challenges by knowing history only. The time has changed and we will have to speed up our understanding of the nature.
There is nothing wrong in our talented students going out and enjoying facilities there. I will fully support this provided they also put in some money in their home country.
Is the Brain Drain Good for India?
Absolutely it is not good for India.
Is this is the fault of that individual person?
He also as a part for this defect.
Then what is the main problem for this Brain Drain?
This occurs because of our economy and the environment only, if these two should be good means our government should take necessity steps to avoid Brain Drain.
Why Brain Drain become problem for India?
The wealth what we should get by our people is missed, if we are giving opportunities to that kind of person in India itself means, India will be developed 100 times more faster than this speed of improving time.
Yes our indian brain is valued higher in the world even i heard before that the researchers in the world would like to test the utility of our former president APJ Abdul kalam's brain which revealed his talent in Pokran.
But it is there how and in what way are we utilising ? Todays youth generation brain is getting drained because of deviation towards cinema, sports and sex. Cinema is a media to expose the ....so youths are also interested in exploring that so they are going to browsing centres to explore unwanted things, in this ways our indian brains are getting drained.
There is no great change needed in our education system, it is far better than others, as we can understand from the foreign studies in india
yes it is
Well,Brain drain has been a very widely discussed topic , for many years. India has not been able to fully utilize it's potential ,I believe. The man power , which we possess, is unparalleled. But many people still tend to leave the Motherland ,in search of so called "greener pastures".
Sending their sons/daughters abroad , to pursue higher studies , or work , has unfortunately become a prestige issue for many parents these days. This attitude was present for a long time , but I feel it has become even more prominent now. Many people tend to believe that the West is "the place to be in." Such an attitude does not augur well for the future of our Country.
Brain drain is definitely not good for any country. People say that Indians who settle abroad and do well ,are projecting a better picture of India , across the World. I beg to differ. The first impression which Western people will get is "Indians are brainy people.Their country does not know how to unleash their full potential." India's image, I honestly believe ,deteriorates even more when people start thinking on these lines.
I agree that the West is a very tempting place , and an opportunity to settle abroad is difficult to resist. But please do spare a thought for your Motherland , which has given us everything.A lot has to be done to make our Country a Superpower in the Global Arena.
The main reason for people leaving the country , I reckon , is the utter failure of the System. There is deep rooted corruption at all levels , ranging from an Office peon , to an IAS Officer. And the living conditions in many places leave a lot to be desired. Bad roads,improper sanitation,garbage accumulation,unemployment,lack of proper health care etc are problems which plague the major portion of the Country.People are disillusioned , and are fed up with having to put up with this sorry state of affairs.
It is the responsibility of the Government to ensure that people have faith in the System. But the Politicians are busy increasing their vote banks , and are always on the lookout for Media bytes. If the Government , and the concerned Departments, do their job in a professional and sincere manner , these problems can be eradicated over the course of time.
Once these problems are solved , India's youth will slowly regain faith in the Country , and will start believing that their future is secure. This is the only way to stop Brain Drain , and will ensure that India's potential is fully utilized in the most efficient manner . This will automatically make India a force to reckon with.
Brain drain means intelligent people leaving the country.Why talented people ar doing this?We have to think.There are multiple reasons
1)Inadequate salary after completing education
2)corruption- This is a very important reason.It is so deep rooted that it is difficult to eradicate.Right from class 4 to minister,it is there .It is said that in Govt offices one has to "either pay or pray" to get the work done.Many intelligent people who join private jobs after getting highly educated,don't get any extra income by all these means.In contrast less qualified people who are occupying Govt posts are earning like this.An intelligent person can't tolerate all these things especially when inflation is so high & life has become really difficult.After getting educated,one has certain expectations about lifestyle.If these are not fulfilled,one gets frustrated.
3)No job satisfaction
4)lack of professionalism- In many offices extra hours of work is there but there is no extra pay.
5)Excess of tax in India- In countries like middle-east,taxfree income is there.Jobs are very good .They provide excellent working conditions,paid leave with airtickets to visit India,well-furnished house,etc.Who will not like all this ? Very few job opportunities are there in india which can be compared with this.
Most of the income is paid as tax in India & corrupt people are misusing it.There are improvements as far as basic amenities like-water,electricity,roads are concerned but improvements are occurring very slowly.
6)Security-terrorism,bomb blasts,communal riots are always there in India.Govt is not able to control this.Political leaders & other nations are creating situations so that various communities should not leave a peaceful life.
7)Pollution- Govt is not taking adequate steps to control this & life in metros has become hell.Many children , youngsters are getting respiratory tract disorders & their lungs are flooded with carbon monoxide.
Its difficult for one to keep on struggling for all these things.So people opt for jobs in US/UK/Gulf.All above mentioned problems are comparatively less there.
Brain drain is harmful & our progress is delayed.Other nations are using our talent.What can be done to prevent this?Improvements in all the aspects which have been mentioned earlier.Govt & senior Govt officers have to take this seriously to stop "brain drain".How this can be achieved ?
Intelligent people should unite to fight against this.Support groups,community websites can be created to discuss these issues .Many people will come out with different solutions/ suggestions.Such suggestions should be implemented.After all we have to save our nation.
Govt should see what other nations are providing.Similar facilities should be provided in India.After all,intelligent people are our own people & we have to care for them.If Govt focuses on these aspects & comes out with some good policies,slowly picture may change.There ia a lot of competition among companies to attract youth.Various incentives,packages are offered.So naturally the youngsters get attracted to such MNC's.MNC's are sending youngsters to countries like US,etc.
Youngsters may stay back in our motherland to work for its betterment.
It is absolutely right that brain drain is not Good for India. Talented people if they are willing to serve their country can do so while while staying at India only . They can achieve their goal within limited resorces also , There are many scientist , Doctors and engineers are doing so.
People go abroad mainly for comfortable life/ high salary and status.
With recession in U.S , many companies are laying off their employees in which Indians working abroad are also affected. They are now returning to their motherland.
In India there are no. of companies who are waiting for their return and offering them high salary and incentives by which they can lead as comfortable life as abroad.
Parents used to send their kids to study abroad mainly for status. In the recent past there are no. of Indian students being murdered. So life there is not secure. So why unnecessary putting your childs life at risk? Here also their life is not secured but atleast they will be with you till the last moment of their life.
What is a Brain Drain?
Migration of highly skilled resources from one geographic location to another in which the destination is getting benefited fully.
For example , engineers in our country, completes graduation from IITS and then migrate to foreign country for job. So in this case, our own country suffers one full resource.
A resource that if he would have been in India, would have contributed to economic structure of the country.
Problem of Brain drain:
A country can get affected by brain drain in the following ways:
In any of the above cases, the main sufferer is the nation from where an individual has left the native place to another country for better prospects.
No brain drain is the fatal thing that is taking place in India now-a-days.By this we are loosing many intelligent wizards to other countries.By this we have loosed our Kalpana chawla and Sunita williams. They are very much proud in saying that they work for NASA but they are regarded as Indo-Americans and not as Indians.We can't blame them for this because the whole fault lies with the Government.The Government hasn't made good arrangements for researches in India and that is the main cause but there are also people like Dr.A.P.J.Abdul Kalam who work only for the prosperity of India.All who have planned to go abroad for should change their mind and work for the growth of our nation.
The other aspect of the story is - Students who are going to US/UK,are not given admissions in good Universities there.They are treated as inferior as compared to local students.Indians will be offered some posts which would have been rejected by local people.
In countries like-middle east-there are a lot of religious restrictions.
Indians should think a lot before migrating to other country.
Yes in deed. Everybody is busy in filling there pockets and no body is caring for the development. So obviously the brighter students look for the better opportunity to go out side.
Some of the Indian students have faced a lot of problems in other countries.e.g a student in Australia from Banglore was considered to be related to terrorist activities & was sent back.
Indian students should think properly.Career can be built up in India e.g See Dr A.P.J.Abdul Kalam & learn from him.He reached upto the level of President.
Govt,senior officers,seniors in every field should try to stop this "Brain Drain" which will hamper India's progress.Provide the best facilities,the best environment in India so that youngsters will stay here.
There is something called as "brain gain-means people from other country come to India" & "brain exchange-means some intelligent people will leave & some will come to India from other country"
Certain firm steps from Govt as following -will help
A P J Abdul Kalam has announced that government would encourage a ”reverse brain drain” to attract some of the brightest youngsters of India and ensure their return to their motherland while addressing a joint sitting of Parliament, he appealed to the overseas Indians to engage more actively in India’s development.
You are posted a number of answers and got 27 points.
Is this a justice.
Hi Sobha , a person's thinking process works in a stepwise manner.It is not always possible to accumulate all my thoughts & post it as 1 answer.Everyday one may get a new idea & one can express it.That doesn't mean that one is doing this for getting points.Actually you should have put this in forum & I also should not have replied here as this thread is only for this GD.As you have raised a query here,I am answering here. I hope Ram will forgive us as he is incharge of this thread
Hi Sobha,another thing which I will like to tell that everybody can't get continuous 2,3,4 hrs to post contents in ISC.As a doctor ,I am busy.Sometimes I get 10 min & I post a forum.Then I may have to see some patient.Again after some time ,I may get some time which i utilise again.All of us have some job & we are working on ISC whenever we get time.So please try to understand.
I will first Answer the question raised by Ramkumar by saying brain drain is not in any sense good for India. But I seize this opportunity to explain in more detail on the main term brain drain.
Brain Drain or human capital flight is an emigration or trained and talented individuals(Human Capital) to other nations or jurisdiction, due to conflicts, lack of opportunity, health hazards where they are living or other reasons.
This syndrome is perhaps most problematic for developing nations, where it is widespread. In these countries such as India, Nigeria to mention a few, higher education and professional certification are often viewed as the best solution to escape from a troubled economy or difficult political situation.
The current rate of brain drain in these developing world of today cause for concern, as the search for greener pasture coupled with desperate need to feed their families and relatives especially those living in their home country as well as lack of adequate planning for the huge population of the citizens by the government thereby making a very high population living below average. In other words allowing best brains to go abroad for better standard of living.
Some of the effects of brain drain on a nation are highlighted below;
1. It give rise to poor leadership and corruption;
2. Brain Drain makes it difficult to create middle class in the society, that is, the gap between the rich and the poor is very long; and
3. It also lead to lack of long term economic growth of any nation under this scourge; to mention a few.
To revert this ugly trend citizens especially students should be enlightened from their elementary school that It is only Indians that can solve India's problems and making her one of the greatest nation in the world and not running away to other nations away from their fatherland to improve a strange land.
Secondly, this problem can also be used to solve the problem in the sense that those that has been carried away by the wind of brain drain in attempt to go and look for greener pastures can come together to use their resources in improving the way things are done back home by influencing government policies that will help placing the nation on the right track of world super power; using their wealth of experience as a tool.
Furthermore, Indians in Diaspora can as well use their profits in investing into the economy of their country in order to improve standard of living of their own people(Per Capita Income). The Indians leaders and elites at home should also make frantic efforts in doing something or policy to stop brain drain.
Another way to stop this is for the Indian government to make policy of recruiting and retaining indigenous employees by providing incentives such as relocation expenses, loan for housing and for self reliance, salary supplement for the first years and more permanent solution is to pay wages that are competitive to their international counterparts.
Conclusively, Brain drain has become a crucial part of developmental problem of any nation that is prone to it. But availability of greener pasture and environment for growth and development of indigenous technocrats will discourage brain drain and its concomitant problems of development in India.
According to S.Karapetrovic, D.Rajamani, W. Willborn, the customers of the university should have confidence that their requirement for quality are met on a continuous basis, and the student will have the knowledge when they graduate.
In today’s world the quality in all aspects of lives is usual. Corporate are reengineering to reassure the customers of high quality of their products and services. In highlight of this piece of evidence, education is no exception. The Customers (students) wants to be guaranteed that quality educational service is provided.
The increasing globalisation capitulate a need to guarantee customers, locally as well as internationally, of the quality education services being provided ( Jeswiet, 1995)
The demand of higher education has been traditionally driven by expectation of its ability to raise the economic and social status of the graduate. Basically people in less developed countries, limited access to education in their own countries led to a significant raise in the number of international students studying overseas. The international student flow between 1960 and 1970 was around 9 percent, and it was declined by 3 percent from 1970 to 1980 (Hughes, 1988).
According to McMahon’s examination on flow of international student from the developing country to developed country during the 1960 and 1970s, via testing an outbound or push model and an inbound or “pull” model.(McMahon, 1992). His push model suggested the student flow largely depends on the level of economy, the priority placed on education by the government of the developing countries and the availability of educational opportunities in the home country (Tim Mazzarol and Geoffrey N. Soutar, 2002) article
Only 25% of Indian engineers, 15% of its finance and accounting professional and 10% of Indian professionals with general degree are suitable to work for multinational companies. (McKinsey, 2005). This is evident the fact that many Indian professionals do not possess the global skills and quality. TRADE POLICY DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, GOVERNMENT OF INDIA.YEAR. Trade in Education services.
[www] http://commerce.nic.in/trade/Consultation_paper_on_Education_GATS.pdf ( 9 October 2008)
The demand of higher education is greater in young countries like India, china as compared to greying countries. Likewise the supply of quality and standard education is greater in greying countries, like UK, US, AUSTRALIA etc.
TRADE POLICY DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, GOVERNMENT OF INDIA.YEAR. Trade in Education services.[www] http://commerce.nic.in/trade/Consultation_paper_on_Education_GATS.pdf ( 9 October 2008)
Indian student studying abroad
Source: WENR (World Education News and Review), IDP Australia, IIE
The above chart indicates the number of Indian student travelling abroad for the higher education. Therefore it’s rather clear that there is a huge excess demand in India for quality higher education.
TRADE POLICY DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, GOVERNMENT OF INDIA.YEAR. Trade in Education services. [www] http://commerce.nic.in/trade/Consultation_paper_on_Education_GATS.pdf ( 9 October 2008)
Most of the Indian universities lack international standard, according to the report by Indian parliamentary estimates committee. It says only 30 percent Indian universities offer “high quality” education.
[WWW]http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=401183§ioncode=26 (07 October 2008)
In spite of several constraints, India has witnessed a rapid growth of institutions of higher education and diversification in areas of studies. Today, the Higher Education structure in India consists of 375 universities and equivalent institutions, which include general universities, science and technology universities, open universities, agricultural and medical universities, language universities and women universities. Besides, there are universities focusing on journalism, law, fine arts, planning and architecture and other specialised areas of studies. There are now more than18000 colleges. Enrolment of students in higher education is more than 11 million. Taking into account about 7.6 lakh enrolments in Open universities, the total enrolment in higher education is Close to about 12 million. There are more than 488 thousand teachers in the higher education system. About 87 thousand Indian students were studying in foreign universities in 2001- 02 and around 8000 international students, particularly from Asia and Africa, were studying in Indian universities in 2002- 2003.
CHAKRAVARTHY,R. Higher Education in India.
[www]http://www.unescobkk.org/fileadmin/user_upload/apeid/workshops/9th_convention/Country_Rpt_IND.pdf.( 9 October 2008).
Educators from different part of India, acknowledge that there is a need for change in Indian institutions to raise focus on life-long learning. In the recent past, government of India reported, that there is a need for quick expansion of quality higher education. There five important concerns facing Indian higher education; access and equity; relevance; quality and excellence; governance and management; and funding according to the parliamentary standing committee on Human Resource Development, 172nd Report on University and Higher Education submitted on may 22, 2006. JANE E.S. 2006. Bringing foreign universities to India. [Online newspaper] http://www.thehindu.com/2006/11/14/stories/20006111402491000.htm. ( 9 October 2008)
Through that in mind, I conclude, Even though there are national Accreditation council found responsible for evaluating and accrediting institutions and academic department in India. The process of getting accreditation is voluntary as like in the united sates.
That accreditation is not as commanding as ISO series. If higher education institutions not as whole but at university level formulate ISO standard compulsory then there may be major possibility to reduce the number of students going abroad, and I end up that this quality and standard factor is not the only concern for Indian students, there are other few fundamental factors which affect Indian students to study and work abroad..
i assume, that international student who pursue higher education abroad settling down in abroad for better work environment, life style abroad and money.not very many students who studied in india are going abroad for work. its comparetively low.
Brain drain is not good for our country, most of the people study in our country,migrated to another country, because of more money for themselves,nowadays in our country itself lots of money given for them,if all the people think of it, then India will be one of the best country in the world.
brain drain is good for the indvidual grating interms of earnings but bad for the country. nowadays the investment bankers are all comng back to seek employment here and hence reverse brain drain.. but aybe now we will face another stuation . employment crunch due to this...
I think that every one should earn for his family and his country.One should do something for his nation.Its not wrong if a person works in other countries.He don't work their free of cost.He is paid for it..We all know that one who is earning in thousands per month in India can earn in lakhs over there.But it is important that he should utilize it for the development of his own country
In today’s world the quality in all aspects of lives is usual. Corporate are reengineering to reassure the customers of high quality of their products and services. In highlight of this piece of evidence, education is no exception. The Customers (students) wants to be guaranteed that quality educational service is provided.One of the major causes for brain drainage.because of this we have the best going abroad to study,and later on they decide to settle their ,because they have got adjusted to the high standard of living.The government should open the economy more,so you have better job opportunities,and more employment options,and hence people decide to stay back at home.Brain Drain or human capital flight is an emigration or trained and talented individuals(Human Capital) to other nations or jurisdiction, due to conflicts, lack of opportunity, health hazards where they are living or other reasons.
Brain Drain means highly talented and skilled people moving to other nations for better opportunity and better lifestyle. Mostly people were attracted to US for world's best universities and better working culture.it is there choice and they see future elsewhere.
question is should they or shoudd they not
well if india provides them even remote chance of job satisfaction then many will.
money is not always the cause for brain drain.
Remove reservations everywhere,universities ,workplaces.
reduce corruption and lets see how thinks unfold.
Brain Drain or human capital flight is an emigration or trained and talented individuals(Human Capital) to other nations or jurisdiction, due to conflicts, lack of opportunity, To revert this ugly trend citizens especially students should be enlightened from their elementary school that It is only Indians that can solve India's problems and making her one of the greatest nation in the world and not running away to other nations away from their fatherland to improve a strange land.
Secondly, this problem can also be used to solve the problem in the sense that those that has been carried away by the wind of brain drain in attempt to go and look for greener pastures can come together to use their resources in improving the way things are done back home by influencing government policies that will help placing the nation on the right track of world super power; using their wealth of experience as a tool.Furthermore, Indians in Diaspora can as well use their profits in investing into the economy of their country in order to improve standard of living of their own people(Per Ca pita Income). The Indians leaders and elites at home should also make frantic efforts in doing something or policy to stop brain drain. engineers in our country, completes graduation from IITS and then migrate to foreign country for job. So in this case, our own country suffers one full resource.
A resource that if he would have been in India, would have contributed to economic structure of the country.
Brain Drain is an emigration of trained and professional of India for better living and earning to other developed countries.As per individuals point of view its good because after such a good and quality education ,they deserve a better job profile where they can use their potential and gain more exposure . They get good earning and help their families financially.In national point of view this seems sometime wrong that our talented people whom our Government supports use their talent for other countries. But if we people think in a different point of view these professionals get more experience and can use this in future to improve the situation of our country
That will be depends upon the situation.Who didn't get the good opportunity in india they will try and settled in Abraod.
They approval their knowledge and skills. Why don't here.