| Author: RK 04 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating:  Points: 2 |
Hi Tony,
It is very exciting to read the above contents. Yes active members only can retain their membership levels.
I need one more clarification. Before 31st December 2009, one member qualifies to Diamond or Platinum or any level, the next day will they be reverted back?
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| Author: Tony 04 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 0 |
Yes
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| Author: Pawan Bahuguna 04 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: 0 |
good Implementation.
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| Author: Hemaa Raani B 04 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 2 |
Hi,
Good chance that would be really.As RK said there must some good diferent between the Active contributors and others.As it is announce early people who are passive in contirbution then tune up.
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| Author: RajmiArun 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: 2 |
Hi Tony,
Thanks for awarding points for editors too. It gives more enthusiasm for the editors too along with the members.
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| Author: varun sharma 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 4 |
I do not agree with Point 2.
What point 2 means to say that, if a Diamond level member reached 10,001+ in last year and he managed to get only 800 points in the current year so his membership level will be pushed back to Gold.
If my understanding is right then how will you do this change:.. by reducing his points below 10,000 mark or by increasing the maximum limit of Gold membership ?
If one diamond member got 800 points and at the end of year you push him back to gold by deleting his points then it will be unfair with that user and if you are pushing back him to gold by increasing gold membership range then it will be unfair with other gold members...
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| Author: Abdul Razzaq 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 2 |
Ohh its good to know the new level changes.Its very difficult to get to Platinum.Condition 2 is really strict it is made for user to keep active hence its good.
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| Author: C.N.Anantharaman 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 1 |
It will boost members to make more points.Good idea,sir.A proverb "Hardwork is the key to success" goes good with this idea sir.
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| Author: K Dinesh Reddy 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: 6 |
Hi tony,
Nice to here such plans.It's really a very good announcement.Now all the members will definitely work hard for that....
Are there any changes related to the payment for referring friends...?
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| Author: Neelam Ganguly 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 1 |
Hi,
Does downgrading involve point reduction?
What about lower grades like Gold, Silver and Bronze?
Regards,
Neelam
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| Author: Dr.Sanjeev(Sandy) 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 5 |
Hi Varun
I appreciate your concern about the new system of points. As you have shown a displeasure or disagree with point 2 which states thar in order to remain in diamond level one has to get 1000 within a year and for to remain in Platinum one should get 10,000 points.
For this I would like to say just a few things, we all know that to reach a level is easier that to retain that. Everyone including me or you will appreciate that person who remain on nd or 3rd spot throughout than to go to top and from there drop down to 15th position. We too appraciate those members who could retain their position. So we have implemented this. A diamond or a Platinum member means a lot and one should retain that credibility by contributing and securing at least 1000 point to remain at diamond and 10,000 points to remain at Platinum level.
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| Author: Vandana 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: 6 |
Sorry, to say, but downgrading points and demoting members is not a good idea at all, but a bit of an insult. Let's take my example: by the end of 2009 I will have contributed to ISC over a year. I am at ISC / IRC for just about 2-3 hours a day so my contributions may not be that great compared to very many others. Now suppose I do not attain the points level by Dec.-end2009. Does that mean my contributions have no value? Every member's contributions are adding to the earnings of ISC, bringing in traffic and Google Ads. Comapanies appreciate employees' work by rewards as the employees help towards the company's progress and profits. What you are suggesting is just the opposite! In fact, senior members repeatedly tell newcomers "don't chase points" - but that is exactly what you are implying - points are more important!
Sorry if I am being a bit harsh in my response, but honestly I simply do not like the idea of demotions and minusing points. I will not be surprised if on New Year's day on 2010 you will find members deciding to either quit altogether or not bother to make as substantial contributions as they were earlier doing. So please rethink ...
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| Author: K Dinesh Reddy 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: -8 |
Hi Vandana,
I agree with you. It's true that many people lose hope on ISC.
Probably few people may stop contributing for ISC.
My suggestion is to increase the no. levels.At present, there are 5 levels ( Bronze, silver, gold, Diamond, Platinum). Can we add another one either inbetween or at the ends.
A small idea: Add Copper level inbetween (ie. between bronze and silver) so that the members will definitely be happy and your thought of changing the levels will be fulfilled.
If so, Then the order would be as follows : bronze, copper, silver, gold, Diamond, Platinum
I hope this is a good idea.
With Regards,
ZORO
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| Author: nikhila 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: 3 |
Hello Tony,
Sorry to say that I too strongly oppose the downgrading. If every year you implement the same members will be demoted to the previous stage once the year gets finished which is really insulting.
What Zoro suggested is somewhat good and just try in that way also.
Hope you people will go for a second thought about this proposal.
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| Author: Tony 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 4 |
The downgrade does not happen every year. It happens every time when you login to ISC. When you login to ISC, the system will check the number of points earned by you in previous 365 days. If you are an active contributor, you will have sufficient points earned in previous 365 days and your status will remain the same.
Without this rule, once a member reach the Platinum or Diamond level will remain there for life long, even if he stops coming to ISC at all. With the new rule, members can remain in high level only if they continue contributing.
regards,
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| Author: Viswa 05 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 4 |
Hi Tony,
Sections like My India, Bookmarks, Training, Classifieds, Ask Experts etc are there to earn points very faster. So more people will reach the Diamond and Platinum level very easily.
For the active participants of ISC members the Change: #2 will not affect in anyway. But downgrade will definitely a bit of an insult.
Instead of downgrade, you may restrict the number of postings in My India, Bookmarks, Training, Classifieds, Ask Experts etc ..... like Polling (Only 50 per month).
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| Author: Gurjant 06 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 4 |
I really don't go with with your change 2. Increasing the points of the different levels is right but downgrading the member level is really not a good thing to do. Members will feel it like an insult to them and to their efforts in promoting ISC.
And instead of it you can add new levels or put some more restrictions on the number posts. You can even reduce the member level of those members who are totally inactive for 6 or 12 months.
And if you want to continue with it. You can at least put some options like ON VACATION, so that the days which on which a member has not contributed anything and marked as on vacation should not be included while calculating his points during the year.
Please do consider my suggestions.
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| Author: Ashok kumar 06 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 2 |
hi tony im really disappointed with your announcement. as gurjant said you can reduce the member level upto diamond who were inactive for 12-15 months.
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| Author: thanushanthan 06 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 1 |
Hi Tony its really disappointing.
For an example , if a diamond member met an accident and couldnt contribute ISC much , will you degrade him ?
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| Author: Dr.Sanjeev(Sandy) 06 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 4 |
Dear friends,
I dont know why you people find this as insulting, or worried too much about such things. Don't you have the confidence of getting 1000 points in 365 days which comes out to be less than 3 points per day if you are a diamond member or can't you contribute and secure 30 points per day if you are a platinum.
Most of the members here are students or in a job, and I think it is very clear that in every field where you are promoted, your responsibilities increases and same applies here too, if you are at diamond level you should get 1000 points in 365 days and if you are platinum then 10000 points in 365 days.
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| Author: vilas 07 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 1 |
changes make good change.
ok we will try.
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| Author: Mahesh 07 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 4 |
Hello Friends
I do agree with Tony's new implementation & also agree with Dr. Sandy's above messages. This new system will be launch only for retain every member as active to catch more points, more earning, more knowledge. Suppose if one member become Platinum today at 25,000 points, so he will think that we catch all the things of ISC. If new system will introduced, this platinum member will work again to remain active at ISC to catch more and more prizes, rewards, and wealthness.
This is not like to be heart any member by slashing down his level, but this is a chance for every member to catch every high level steps, becouse "Sucess has no destinations..."
Tony, Thanks for introducing more points for Editors basis on their cash rewards of editing work.
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| Author: Nitin 08 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 6 |
Hi All,
Sorry for responding lately.
Tony/Sanjeev, I agrees with points that you have mentioned above. However, I think there needs to a tweak for the point 2. Instead of downgrading a
person to Platinum to Diamond level or Diamond to Gold.
You will need to consider few things.
Gold: 1001 to 10,000 Points -- The diffference 9000 points
Diamond: 10,001 to 50,000 Points -- the difference is 40000 points.
Platinum: Above 50,000 Points
Now when you mention if the member has not earned 10000 points in a year then he will downgrade to Diamond. Then what points will he be alloted.
Ex.. at the start of the year he was 46000 and end of the year 50001.
This means he has not earned 10k points... what will be his points status 46k or 10k or 49,999. As the Diamond level starts from 10k to 49,999. The same would apply for the Diamond to Gold and Gold to Bronze and I do not know where Bronze will downgrade too.
My only questions is what is the reason for action on Points. We are not providing an cash credits based on the points earned by members. It is on his work and contribution toward ISC.
So I think let the member earn reach a certain level, if he is not contributing, we have no issue. If you are thinking in prospects of a member that once he reach the Platinum member level, the he will also get a certain contribution on profits earn by ISC. Get the restriction in that particular clause. Then affecting all members.
I would say, increase in membership points is good, downgrading is not a good idea, Being a editor, I am thinking in both prospects.
Reason, we have many restriction, then any other website. Which is totally acceptable, as we are growing on day on day basis.
If we are downgrading the member level, then members will not be happy, as every is not actively working from morning to evening on the ISC website.
Everyone is either employed or student or has is personal commitment, So he will not be able to give complete time to ISC.
My another question is, what about the points that a member is scoring in Communities section. Where are they added. As individual, he is earning points in that section. Will those points will be considered during the membership downgrading or upgrading.
Sorry, If you think, Being an editor why Nitin is opposing the ideas. I also need to think on a member level prospects, as tomorrow even I will be downgraded. As I give most of the time to my Community.
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| Author: K Dinesh Reddy 08 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: 5 |
Hi All,
I totally agree with NITIN sir.
I am repeating the same idea which I have suggeted earlier.
Increase the number of levels from 5 to 6. So no one will have any objections. We are just increasing the number of level's and not degrading their level's.
As you have said that people can easily score the points and upgrading their level easily. People will not be happy if they are degraded. And They will not contribute as they used to. Which we don't want for the development of ISC.
Insted, You can increase the number of level's. So, they will not be unhappy as they are not losing their previous position. As their goal has increased by a level they will still work hard to reach the best position.
Ex: Add Copper level between bronze and silver. so that the members will definitely be happy.
If so, Then the order would be as follows : bronze, copper, silver, gold, Diamond, Platinum
I hope many people like this idea. Please post your comment on this.
Thank you.
With regards,
Dinesh (Zoro)
Editor, ISC
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| Author: Pankaj Gupta 08 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 3 |
Hello Tony Sir,
This is Good Announcement. But one Question I want to Ask you that one side you are announcing to give some more points to Users for their Work and other side you are increasing the points to achieve the membership Level from Next Month. So, what is the Benefits in the First Case? It will be better not to give easy points and Also Do not Increase the Membership Point Level.
Thank You Sir.
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| Author: Tony 08 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 6 |
Nitin, I don't think you understood the announcement correctly. There will be no reduction in points. All I said is, a person will be in Platinum level only if he has a total of 50001 points and 10,000 points earned in last 12 months.
For example, consider Tony. He has earned a total of 193733 points. On 1 Jan 2010, he will still be a Platinum member. Assume he stop contributing today. That means, on 8 May 2010, he will have only 0 points earned in previous 12 months and that will make him a Diamond member, with 193733 points still in his profile. That is exactly what I want - if a person stop contributing, he will not be in Platinum level.
Platinum and Diamond members are the core of ISC. I am not making it challenging it for them to keep their rank, but I am implementing rules to maintain the reputation of their rank.
It is not hard at all to earn 1000 or 10000 points. In fact, Diamond members and Platinum members reached those levels by contributing a lot. All I am asking, keep contributing a little bit even after you achieve the high rank.
For the editors, just the points earned from editing is good enough to keep the levels.
I do not think any of Diamond or Platinum members will lose their levels just because of this rule, as long as they visit ISC and contribute a bit.
Take an example: Mahesh joined 9 months back and earned 17,000 points.
Dr Sanjeev joined around 9 months back and earned 23,000 points.
There are many others who earned over 10,000 points within 1 year and 1000s of members earned over 1000 points.
I really do not understand what are you all complaining about.
regards,
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| Author: Tony 08 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 2 |
This is Good Announcement. But one Question I want to Ask you that one side you are announcing to give some more points to Users for their Work and other side you are increasing the points to achieve the membership Level from Next Month. So, what is the Benefits in the First Case? It will be better not to give easy points and Also Do not Increase the Membership Point Level.
Pankaj Gupta,
I want to make it easy for active contributors to achieve higher levels and want to make it difficult for inactive contributors to keep their levels. That is the reason behind all these new changes.
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| Author: Pankaj Gupta 08 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 1 |
Thank You Tony Sir.
If this is the case then it is Good .Now I think It is a right Decision.
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| Author: Rahul 08 May 2009 | Member Level: Gold | Rating: Points: 0 |
i like to be diamond member soon.atleast........
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| Author: Nitin 09 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 4 |
Thank you Tony for the response and making clear in respect to the points.
However, again my question to you will be.
Will this declared any where,like FAQ or Membership level section. Reason :
1) When a New member will check for the Membership level and see 50k for Platinum.
Then he come's to a member profile and see that member has earned 60k and is still a Diamond. Going with your condition he has not contributed till 10k points in order be active a platinum.
Isn't the information contradicting?
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| Author: SajithkumarS 09 May 2009 | Member Level: Diamond | Rating: Points: 5 |
Hi All,
Lot of debate going around this topic. Great to see such a huge response regarding the issue. Tony's idea has a logic in terms of a person who is a diamond member will continue to remain so even though he has not contributed anything. But the major question is does it matter in what level you are in since I fail to see reason in the debate on levels.
* What additional benefits does each member have?
* If there are benefits has it been passed to the members?
* Is contributing more important than getting from the system?
* Are you in it because you think you are going to get something out of it?
* Is ISC a money making platform to sustain our needs?
* Should our hours/effort put in be directly proportional to revenue we make?
Have a thought in this direction.
Regards
SKumarS
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| Author: Tony 09 May 2009 | Member Level: Platinum | Rating: Points: 3 |
Sajithkumar,
Your questions are great for a separate discussion. Please post it as a new thread. I am closign this thread since we have discussed enough on this topic.
Nitin, the new points scheme will be published here.
regards,
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