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    Is the punyam(good deeds) and paavam (bad deeds) theory true?

    Right from the age of two, as far as I can remember, like in most Tamil Brahmin families, I was told that there is something called punyam, that is, all the good deeds we should do now. If we do bad deeds, that is, paavam, we will be punished by God, now, in this life, and next birth too.

    Is this theory true?

    We see all the atrocities around us, like the Tuticorin tragedy. What happened? So, all the 14 who have died are those who have done so much of paavam, (that is, bad deeds) in their previous lives, that they had to die on that fateful day?

    And does it mean that Anil Aggrawal, who has had the cheek to bribe every single politician, left, right and center, has done so much punyam in his previous life, that God has given him the billions that he can throw around, after comfortably sitting in London?

    Where does this start and where does this theory end? Is there any scientific reasoning behind this theory? Even the Christians talk about paavigal ( the worst crooks, who do all bad deeds), though I do not ever understand what they really mean.

    Members may please do clarify.
  • #637399
    Indians had no concept of good or bad deeds but a crude concept of Karma. How are karma and deeds different? Deeds accumulate onto your soul and are weighed on the Judgement day, deciding you go to hell or paradise.
    But karma isn't the same. Karma is judged and you are punished instantly. "Instant Karma" as Westerners call. Karma played a huge role in structuralising Hinduism.
    Karma is neutral, neither good nor bad. Its just the result of your action.
    And it is not really hard to understand this simple theory because we know that every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
    So as a theory karma is entirely possible and I do believe in karma.

    The stronger a light shines the darker are the shadows around it.

  • #637409
    In double entry book keeping (accountancy), we have to tally both sides always. The asset side and liability side have to be balanced in the balance sheet.
    In our life also we are having invisible balance sheet, or we can believe that God is maintaining our accounts and balances our acts. There the principle is:
    You get back what you give. If it is Goodwill and good deeds, you will also get back goodwill and good deeds. If they are bad words and bad deeds, you will get back the same.
    Extending them, we can say that Paapa-Punya theory is true. If anything is left to be balanced that will be carried over as Janmaantara sukrutam or janmaantara dosha to the next janma.

  • #637412
    "As You Sow So Shall You Reap", remains a famous quote of all times. This emphasis the very fact of real life that we are the result of our own actions. That we will be rewarded or punished according to the good or bad deeds that we do. The Bhagwat Gita quote further clarifies that every human beings are given the rights for his karma or the actions but the human beings don't have control on the outcomes.

    For example, an individual appears for an IAS examination & has prepared well but still it's not up to him to decide for the selection as this remains someone else responsibility which further be based on the performances of other candidates as well.

    In the same way, if we have done something bad to someone then it is already on your record but how long it will required to come back to you will be decided by someone else. This often relates to the spiritual world for which different beliefs come up with the different perspectives. For me we should be listening to & follow the Veda's. I am not an expert in this but if we could listen to Mr. Mahender Pal Arya in his uploads, will certainly clarify any of your doubts.

  • #637417
    Irrespective of religions, the good and bad deeds applies to all and every sect believes this in full. Good deeds need not be providing cash assistance or giving some clothes or food. Even thinking good about persons for their progress from inner heart is also good deed. That means we should not hurt any one even in thoughts. In this regard I admire the slogan often used by Sri Satya Saibaba which says, Hug every one and hurt none. When we have not created a human being we have no right to abuse or hurt with bad words. That will tell upon our life with immediate effect. And those are philanthropists since ages and if they are donating without expecting anything in return, surely they are gaining more Punyam to their account. Good deeds started at the fag end of the age wont bring the drastic changes that we expect.
    K Mohan
    'Idhuvum Kadandhu Pogum "
    Even this challenging situation would ease

  • #637423
    In every religion or society in the world, there are some theories related to good deeds or bad deeds or good character or bad character etc and based on their respective mythological beliefs and concepts, people believe in them.

    There is no scientific, logical or rational proof for these theories but traditionally and culturally we believe in them.

    There is no harm also in following and worshiping one's culture as it is completely a personal choice.

    So to find out whether it is true or not will require a great deal of spiritual as well as scientific research but till that time the believers of this doctrine will always make others to fear to do bad deeds as these bad deeds will lead to bad times either in the same life or in next one.

    So from that point of view these theories work as good controlling factors on the bad guys though in stark reality very few of the bad people abide by them.

    Knowledge is power.

  • #637428
    Karma is the law of consequences.
    Generally, People pay back what another person has provided to them: that is, people give back the kind of treatment they have received from another. This is not Karma. This is called Reciprocity in social norms.
    What type of person are you?
    Do you react or leave Karma to pay back?

  • #637461
    Doing good things like helping others, donating money or food to the needy, respecting elders and following ethics will give us Punya. Doing things like beating others unnecessarily, stealing money, not following ethics and not respecting elders are some papa Karyas which will give us papam. If you do Punya karyas you will go to Swargam after your death and you can get merged (Salvation) with God. One good deed and one bad deed will not make zero. You have to have the effect of both punyam and Papam. To negatives make positive rule is not applicable. If you kill a cat and if you construct a temple, you have to experience the result of killing the cat as well as constructing the temple.
    Many people think that by earning money by bad deeds and donate some part to God, they will become neutral. That is a misconception, for every act of you, there will be a resulting effect on you. You have to experience the same.

    always confident

  • #637482
    Many things in life are a balance of good vs bad, light vs dark, God vs Evil. This is the way mankind has evolved, religions and beliefs have been formulated and re-enforced by each generation.

    We cannot question such concepts because these are based on our faith/beliefs and the analytical mind will not get any evidence for the same.

    My grandfather would say (like Ventikeswaran sir), God has a book of the good and bad we do and punish us when we do more bad deeds). However, there are many people around us who do all the bad deeds but still enjoy a good, care-free life.

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