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    Who are responsible, teachers or students,for the poor standards in education?

    There is a general agreement about the poor standards in education. Who is responsible for it? Teachers or students, or the both? The same school, the same teachers, different levels of learning among the students. Some students learn effectively and some average to poor. This shows that there is not a uniform learning pattern among the students. What should be done? Is it possible to grade the students according to their learning capabilities and have different levels of coaching? The time frame may not permit such an exercise. We are hearing many incidents of poor people learning in village schools and nearby colleges and being successful in competitive examinations for higher studies and job placements. Where the problem lies and what are the solutions?
  • #638815
    The present system of education and the method of evaluating the capability of the students are the main reasons for the present low standards of the education. In addition to that, as mentioned by the author, both teachers and students are also responsible for the present state of affairs. To some extent, parents are also responsible for this present state. The people who mug up the lessons and reproduce the content in the exams will get more marks and better grades. This is the very reason why there are separate admission tests for are good institutions. A person who is interested in a particular concept he may go deep into that subject and try to find out the root causes. If the other topics are not interesting to him, he may not touch those portions. Even though they have a fair knowledge of their interesting subjects they may not be considered as good students.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #638818
    This topic has been taken up for discussion under different contexts. Various points have been raised by different people. However, no clear or definite answer has been arrived at.
    What I feel is that the very approach towards education has been changed.
    In olden days education was aimed at gaining an all over knowledge to lead a successful life. So many leave the school or college after gaining the knowledge needed to lead a successful life. But now as soon as a child is admitted in the primary classes, parents start planning. A doctor, an engineer, an IAS officer, an IT specialist, etc. are the general categories selected. Next is grooming the child to fit into it. He or she do not get a chance to gain general knowledge. Further the students are taken in school buses from their houses and dropped at the school. Similarly after classes they are taken back in the same way. The students do not get a chance to see what are things happening around. How to go to the market and buy things bargaining on price, these children do not know.
    Again learning things in ones own mother tongue is also important to understand things clearly.

    T.M.Sankaran
    Gold Member ISC

  • #638820
    The present system of education does not allow acquisition of knowledge and skills, for the sake of one's own development, or for the boy or girl, expressing himself or herself> A huge emphasis is always on rote learning. This makes it very difficult for the students to go anywhere beyond the syllabus.

    Only the CBSE pattern of education, is based on some innovation, even if limited. For example, there is project work, which encourages out-of-the-box thinking. There is quite a bit of free exchange of ideas in a fairly free atmosphere. In addition, there is this problem of English Vs the Vernacular medium. It is generally seen that those who study in any medium other than English, are hopelessly inadequate when it comes to their coping with new demands of understanding new concepts in English. They first understand it in their own mother tongue and then try to understand it in English. This poses a huge hurdle for such students, when they reach the higher educational level.

    In the Hindi belt, there is a sustained campaign against speaking in English, or making it a medium of expression. The net result is that a very small percentage go to the IAS, while the others simply fall out of the mainstream.

    In the South of India, the standards of English, both spoken and written, is far better. This is probably why the South dominates in the standards of education, particularly the higher education.

    So, the problem of education is manifold. There are a huge number of problems that need to be solved.

    The only method of improving educational standards is by encouraging creativity and innovation to some extent. It is also possible to improve education standards by improving spoken and written English standards through various mechanisms such as specially trained teachers who will follow creative methodologies to develop a taste for learning English, both spoken and written.

    If this is done, there will be some improvement, though this is not the only solution.

  • #638821
    First thing first. I contest the statement: ''poor standard of education''. Has the standard really gone down? What I studied in B.Sc. First Year, my daughter has studied in XIth and XIIth (Physics, Chemistry). The same is true for Biology and Mathematics (I didn't study Biology in Graduation, but heard from other friends). Then how do you say that standard has fallen.

    Let's discuss the standard of education first. If it is found that the standard is poor, then we will think who is responsible.

    Beware! I question everything and everybody.

  • #638827
    I blame both the teachers and the students for the poor standards in education. A teacher has the responsibility to convey her teaching in such a way that each students must able to understand and remember. Some teachers have the habit of mugging up the portions without giving the reasoning for it. And students on the other hand wont raise any questions or doubts with the fear that he or she would be bogged down by other students or by asking doubts it is considered as you are poor student. Such a mentality wont work as the students need to seek right clarifications and doubts. If this happens, then the standard would be far better. And the teacher must ask questions from each candidate and there should not selective treatment in the class. Thus if the students are treated as all, then the students also feel at home and ease to study.
    K Mohan
    'Idhuvum Kadandhu Pogum "
    Even this challenging situation would ease

  • #638828
    What I am trying to discuss here is not the poor standard of education but poor standard in education. To be specific, the poor standards in imparting education to the students. The ability to bring about the behavioral changes as per the curriculum and the actual behavioral changes that take place in the students after the teaching-learning process.
    " Be Good and Do Good "

  • #638834
    If the issue is ''the poor standards in imparting education to the students'', then the teachers are required to be blamed. But even after the deterioration of values, most of the teachers are respected by the students and they impart knowledge excellently. Even now, most of the students in school learn properly and later implements the knowledge to be successful in life.
    Beware! I question everything and everybody.

  • #638835
    Today education has become a very large and limitless activity in our country in the sense that there are a innumerable number of educational institute and the quality of the teachers is differing from one place to other. Unfortunately our education remained more as an academic pursuit rather than technical or trade oriented so the students did not settle in jobs in time and rather continued for the inevitable path of pursuing higher education.

    Frankly speaking, higher educate is required only by a few who really deserve it and have the requisites aptitude. The mushrooming of educational institutes in the higher education segment has made the situation uncontrollable now.

    Most of us feel that the education standards are deteriorated. It is not so. The fallacy lies in the fact that we have not properly amalgamated the trade and skill part to our education and have not created ample opportunities for students to terminate their unnecessary hunger for higher education and settle in the job after diploma and certificate. What is the use of highly qualified unskilled people if what we need is technicians and fitters etc at a lower level. The population explosion in our country has added fuel to fire as everyone who has nothing else to do joins a fancy higher education course. What we are going to achieve by that?

    In my opinion, there should be a limit on the higher educational institute in every stream and only the talented and meritorious students should get opportunity to avail that. Others, the mediocre, do not deserve unnecessary high dose of academics which makes them of no use in the real world.

    Knowledge is power.

  • #638844
    If we consider the imparting of knowledge to the students, the major role rests with the teachers. In our country the teachers are given training in teaching aspects only at the school level. The school students get the benefits. But what about the college teachers ? Once a person completes post graduation in a subject joins in a college as a lecturer or Asst. Professor. He or she has not got any training in the teaching profession. That means these new entrants will not have any knowledge about the students' psychology. They just follow the text book or reference book and take classes. All the students cannot be expected to have the same standard.
    I remember my PG Student days, where different teachers were handling classes. Some of them were having Doctorate degrees too. Our head of the department used to take classes and dictate notes with the help of her (Professor was a woman) own notes of her student days. She could not solve the doubts of students. It is true that there were good teachers too, who took classes without copying from texts. When I became a teacher and head of the department I had to allocate some of the teaching classes to my juniors. However, when new batches were admitted I used go to the class and take the first class and introduce the subject. Afterwards The junior teachers would handle the classes. Then, sometimes, students used to come to me to handle the whole classes in the subject. The reason was the inefficiency of the juniors.
    So what I feel that the incompetence of several teachers do affect the standard of education.

    T.M.Sankaran
    Gold Member ISC

  • #638963
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  • #639037
    According to me the responsibility falls on both students and teachers as well on the parents. In many schools, there is a saying that the poor teaching of teachers due to their poor salaries. I can accept this only a minimum extent as the teachers should not reduce their responsibility because of their monetary rewards or personal vengeance. Secondly the students should concentrate in their studies with the point keeping in mind about the difficulties faced by the parents. Mere admitting in a good school we cannot come to a conclusion that the student should get a high marks or rank. The effort from the side of students should be put on. Thirdly many parents do not even asking their children what they have studied in the schools, never meeting the teachers, never talking to the children (especially friendly talk), they find no time to see the children's education by just admitting their children into a 'high' standard school.


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