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    Do you think Indian military forces can compete with China Military forces?!

    China the most powerful military force in the world comprising manpower, latest weapons, and advanced technological equipment which is used in Military based operations as we all know there are tensions raised between India and China in the borders as Diplomacy is the only tool for India to deal with China. We could never compete no matter how optimistic we are. Do you think Indian military forces can compete with China Military forces if at all there is war situation raised? Let us discuss the Indo-China military power in this thread.
  • #697746
    Today our country is also equipped with latest technology weapons and our military is no way inferior to China. They might have better technology and some new innovative weapons, as China is well known for making newer and newer design items, still we can give them a good fight. I think we are not in that 1962 situation when we were badly defeated in the war. That is why China is now thinking twice to start war with India. Moreover the support and international reputation that India is having today is also much ahead of earlier times. What China is doing at our borders is to distract the world community from focus on him regarding virus issue to the Indo-China border.
    Thoughts exchanged is knowledge gained.

  • #697753
    In the morning I saw a news report image which shows Indian forces standing next to Mc Mohan line or LAC and on that side the Chinese forces are also standing in attendance. What I mean to the say that the gap is just two to four feet and one can imagine the positive attitude of our force against the Chinese force. In the past military budget the China has increased its plan to invest more in Defense and may for this reason to have face off with India. But our Indian forces are very active and formidable and having lots of confidence in their body movement and also rearing to go. But America is watching all these overtures by China which is seeking to intrude undecided area of the border which belongs to both sides. And US knows China wants to tame India for its stand on Make in India and Make from India.
    K Mohan @ Moga
    'Idhuvum Kadandhu Pogum "
    Even this challenging situation would ease

  • #697756
    #697746 Even the most powerful patriotic persons from India are telling that diplomacy is the only tool for India to deal with China. We could never compete no matter how optimistic we are. we know that who effected more with Coronavirus. Who able to stop spreading the virus in their respective countries? See this link https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_China_vs_India
    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697757
    India is one of the most powerful country of the world but if India and China are compared then obviously China is stronger than India.

    Army

    India has 1.2 million active personnel, 4,426 combat tanks, 6,704 armoured fighting vehicles, 290 self-propelled artillery, 7,414 towered artillery and 290 rocket projectors.

    China has 2.3 million personnel in active service with 6,457 in combat tanks, 4,788 armoured fighting vehicles, 1,710 self-propelled artillery, 6,246 towered artillery and 1,770 rocket projectors.

    Navy

    China's naval has 714 vessels, with one aircraft carrier, 51 frigates, 35 destroyers, 35 corvettes, 68 submarines, 220 patrol craft and 51 mini warfare vessels.

    India's naval has 295 vessels, with three aircraft carriers, 14 frigates, 11 destroyers, 23 corvettes, 15 submarines, 139 patrol craft and six mini warfare vessels.

    Air force

    India's total aircraft strength is about 2102, with 676 fighter aircraft, 809 attack aircraft, 857 transporters and 323 trainer aircraft. Total helicopters are around 666, including 16 attack helicopters.

    China's total aircraft strength is about 2,955, with 1,271 fighter aircraft, 1,385 attack aircraft, 782 transporters, 352 trainer aircraft. It has 912 helicopters out of which 206 are attack helicopters.
    Nuclear stockpile

    India's nuclear stockpile has around 130 warheads. Minimum tactical missile range is about 150 km, farthest strike distance tested successfully is 5,000-6,000 km (Agni -V). Surya, an intercontinental ballistic missile being developed, has a range up to 16,000 km.

    China has a nuclear stockpile of 270 warheads. Chinese Intercontinental ballistic missiles can strike targets as far as 15,000 km. A missile shield guards China from incoming missiles by intercepting them before they reach Chinese territory. China has at least 90 ICBMs out of which 66 are land-based and 24 are submarine-based.

  • #697759
    Even the USA is far behind in some of the points mentioned above #697757 compared with China.see the below link
    https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_China_vs_USA.

    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697760
    When it comes to war, it is not all about the weapons or manpower that alone counts. There are many other factors including the territory, accessibility, preparation, readiness, the morale of the troops, strategic precisions, international standing and reputation, and many others which will play an important role. So, I don't think it would be prudent to compare the military strength of two nations and conclude the possibility of winning a war. If I am not mistaken, the Indian Army is considered the second-best in the world in terms of training, effectiveness, and valour. But again, even that is immaterial. Border disputes between India and China are nothing new and it has always existed side by side with the diplomatic exchanges by both sides.

    So, rather than asking who has a better chance to win, I think we should be asking will there be a war? Keeping the global conditions, international relations, and the approach by international organizations governing the same, I don't think either India or China will allow the present standoffs to develop into a war. Each side may take such steps to remind themselves of the existing disputes and there may be standoffs and some skirmishes but the ultimate aim will never be war. Deploying more men and weapons on the borders is just a measure to exhibit our strength and decisiveness.

    And, India, as well as China, is well aware of the international implications that war can have on the position of their respective countries in different aspects including security, diplomatic relations, economy, and finally the growth factor.

    “The door to wisdom is knowing yourself." Anonymous

  • #697762
    I was reading the Chinese newspaper 'Global Times' and found that China was lying about the escalating tension between India and China and trying to show itself as a victim and India as an oppressor.

    * India has deliberately infiltrated into Galvan Valley, the Chinese land, to incite the Chinese army

    * There is no actual line of control between both the countries.

    * Even in 1962 India had started war and made China to respond in defence.

    * If standoff continues and situation worsen between both the countries then India will be responsible.

  • #697766
    First of all as our former prime minister Atal Vajpayee sir had said that we can change everything except our neighbours, it is right that we can't bear slaps of any one in 21st century. China has jealous feeling for India due to increasing growth rate of our motherland. When we talk about our military then I always remember only one line " Felling proud Indian Army (all the three components)." We have great commandos and forces. If anyone wants to see dedication level of our protectors then he or she must read about the Abhinandan sir. Our every military man has same love for country. Being a student of peace education I will always pray for peace but when anyone will try to start the war we will answer strictly. If anyone uses bricks than India has stones to reply. As a conclusion I would like to say that we have best military forces. We can win by anyone.

  • #697774
    Whether India wins or China loses is not the question now. Is it time to go for war? This is what we have to ponder about. The economy is in very bad shape and the whole world is under the threat of the Corona Virus. So all the countries are worried more about that and they are trying to find a way out.

    China is not in a good understanding of many countries. The developed countries like the USA are very much against China. At the same time, many countries will be with India and internationally we have many supporters. In case of any emergency, many of them may come in support of us. That will be an added advantage India is having.

    Indian military forces are also equipped with good ammunition and they have a lot of courage to face any situation. We need not underestimate their strengths. So we need not think that we can't win over China if war comes. But the world is not in a stage to witness war and hence I pray to God to see that such problems will not come for the next one or two years.

    drrao
    always confident

  • #697778
    #697760
    Statistics are nothing but numbers game a win prediction can be done with the numbers and we have previous historical data is available with us so the numbers are on Chinese Side and even history is on the Chinese side and the patriotic Indian media also thinks Chinese have more military capability their win is a cakewalk if war is initiated between these two countries. So the win percentage can be estimated and it is on the side of China...

    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697786
    When the situation so warrants and take us to the brink of war, India is formidable and capable when compared to China. Remember if at all the war was initiated from that side, India has good friends globally and they would volunteer to join our forces with their modern weapons because every country has the grudge on China to take on revenge due to spread of virus. So there would be grouping and there are even chances that some countries may join other side by virtue of India been seen as enemy for the reasons known to them. What ever it is , the war could be the third world war and would be fought decisively.
    K Mohan @ Moga
    'Idhuvum Kadandhu Pogum "
    Even this challenging situation would ease

  • #697804
    I am not sure if the author has a close experience about the Indian Armed Forces and Chinese Armed forces.
    If his knowledge is only from what is available in public domain then we all have the same knowledge.

    But I would say that it is only because the author is living in India that he is able to write and express doubts about the country's armed forces ability and capacity. Had he been in China probably this kind of thread about that coutry would not have seeln light and he may be in some dark cells now.

    India is a great nation which has never started or begun a war. The last one it was compelled to get involved was in 1971, when the nation had a strong political leadership. We knew what the result was. A nation is known by the strength and will of its political leadership, morale of its forces and the morale and support of the ordinary people to its leadership.
    As of now all these are positive for India. Moreover the logistics and equipment support is also good for our armed forces. This can be seen form the defending retaliatory action by our armed forces in western border.

    Now coming to the present context which prompted the thread:
    A war now is not in anybody's good. China is just trying small provocations and proxy for Pakistan. Pakistan has lost its support all over the world. So China being Pakistan's friend has to do something against India. As of now India gets some extra attention from western and other nations regarding future trade and business.These countries has now less trust on China. This also has prompted China. So to make India scared and hesitant China does all these mischiefs at our border.

    However, my peronal view is that India has enough political maturity, stability, strong leadership with international acceptance, armed forces whose morale, logistics and equipment are at all time best. China is also aware of this. All nations - not just India and China - will ensure that things do not escalate to a war. There will not be any war. The mild border skirmishes will be ended soon by bilateral or multilateral diplomacy.

    I would request the author not to propagate such confusing theories like the vested interests and enemies of this country.

  • #697810
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    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697812
    The point here is not of who will win if India and China go to war, or whose forces are strong or who has more ammunition and bravery. The real question here is that the whatever we are seeing in news is not something which is imminent but a well planned political game by Chinese government.

    If we go to war then the border escalation are just an excuse and not a real reason for war, these issues can be resolved armies and government peacefully too. Following are the reason I foresee:

    1. Due to Covid pandemic the world economy has crashed but still China has enough surplus to make the entire world its dependent by supplying them with products and services. But all the countries are looking at China with a very big doubt.

    2. US, Japan and many other countries have planned to shift their factories/plants/manufacturing units out of China which will be a big blow to the dragon country.

    3. All countries are either eyeing India, Bangladesh, Vietnam or other smaller, cheaper and peaceful countries who would not blackmail them in near future.

    4. Now China is trying escalate issue which really don't need going to war but to damage the image of India so that the countries looking to establish their plant in India or move out of China change their mind and stop the economic loss it is seeing imminent.

    5. China has already made many smaller countries debt ridden by financing heavy Infrastructure to help them grow economically but, on the contrary trapped them in heavy financial burden, which they cannot pay off. Pakistan and Sri Lanka area good example of that. There are many more countries, just google it.

    6. China is interfering in many countries to make itself a world power and then milk the opportunity of dominance and monopoly.

    US and other big nations have sniffed this plan of China and are very much in process of countering it. No doubt if there is any escalation or war between India and China then, it won't remain a local war but will definitely become World War III and that is the last thing this planet need right now.

    China is intimidating India to spread bad image of the country by posting fake articles and news and lessen its losses. China also knows that many nations will come down heavily upon it if it does anything too daring.

    So, what I see this is as a diplomacy game which need good political support and unity of like minded nations to cool down the tension and emerge from this pandemic first.

    Live before you leave.

  • #697813
    Even now China is giving helping hand to India to fight against COVID-19 financially as it is told by the foreign affairs minister of China...Just google it. India is taking a lot of loans from the World Bank and Asian Development Bank(which China has 3rd largest share in it and the other two are U.S.A and Japan) to fight against COVID-19. please google it. or refer to the URL
    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/adb-approves-usd-1-5-bn-loan-to-india-to-fight-covid-19/articleshow/75426780.cms

    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697819
    #697812 Now the cat is out of the Bag. Beijing-backed Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) said on Friday it had approved a $500 million loan to India to help the country navigate the coronavirus pandemic.
    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697860
    Bhushan, China offering help or helping India or vice-versa is not the question here. Your doubt is whether Indian forces can compete with their Chinese counterparts in case a war erupts between the two nations.

    And, please avoid posting links unnecessarily.

    “The door to wisdom is knowing yourself." Anonymous

  • #697871
    How Viceversa? What is the logic behind taking a loan? If you don't have enough money in your pocket you take a loan to fulfill your desires? It's a common thing... there is no rocket science in it. I am responding to the threads #697812 and #697804. One said They are telling China giving loans to trap countries and the other said As of now India gets some extra attention from western and other nations regarding future trade and the business if that is the case China should stop financial support to India.
    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697875
    Bhushan,
    Your subject for discussion is the Indo-China conflict. Taking a loan or giving a loan is different from Military conflict. It is the self-respect, safety and security of the country that takes priority. These days, to fight a war, we don't require guns, tanks, rockets, and missiles. A small virus would do. The whole world is now fighting against China's virus. Both China and India have their mighty defence forces. War is like a game. Winning and losing depends on how we fight. It cannot be predicted in advance. If at all there is a war between us, as an Indian, think that we will win the war against China. That should be the spirit of a true and brave Indian.

    No life without Sun

  • #697879
    #697875 I am responding to the threads #697812 and #697804.

    #697875 If the whole world is against China then why they are taking their help in different forms. Some countries are taking money as loan and some are taking Medical kits and some countries are taking in other forms. and some countries are taking all. We could never compete no matter how optimistic we are.

    Probability a theory based on Assumptions and Negativity(Elimination). It is used in the evolution of atomic theory.--- Bhushan

  • #697882
    Bhushan,
    I would simply say that China is doing business. They are very active and smart. They have enough to lend to others. The Chinese economy is a flourishing economy in the world. Chinese, Japanese, Koreans are not like Indians. We Indians don't think about progress. We have the attitude of - Just Live and die. Chinese have - Work hard and live happily.

    No life without Sun


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