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    Points:5

    We should also be concerned on several matters

    Whenever there is the smallest threat to the secular nature of our Indian Constitution, irrespective of any politics, as common citizens, we all need to voice our opinion.

    There have several unwelcome and unfortunate trends. A Chief Justice of India retires and becomes a Rajya Sabha member. Another judge becomes Governor of a major South Indian State. We cannot sit and watch these trends in 2023.

    Similarly, members of one major minority are not even allowed to do small business by the goondas of a political party. Not much discussion happens anywhere. In Karnataka, it is the moral police and not the Government police that decides too many things.

    In another State, the chief of a major party organizes honey traps against his own party women. We have gone down to such deplorable levels of public decency.

    All of us, the common citizens, need to bombard the social media and keep such anti-social trends at bay. We cannot remain silent saying that we are not concerned. Let us all act in 2023.
  • #768257

    Points:5
    There are many other points we should all think and make sound so that all will have equal opportunities in this country.
    A collector's son who just manage to pass the examination gets a seat in a good college where as a common clerk's son who gets more than 90% also can't get a seat as he is not from reserved category.
    A politician who starts his career with just starts his journey with a few lacs of rupees earns corers of money in no time and no one can question them.
    A person changes his religion but still continues to avail the benefits of reservation which he should lose once he changed his religion.
    Like this there are many issues. Let the intellectuals like the author should join hands and make a forum and start fighting the evils. But creating threads may not bring any awareness to many as the visibility of his works here is only to some limited people.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #768261

      

    Points:4
    Thank God there were no social media platforms during the freedom struggle otherwise, there would have been floods of opinions on those media without any freedom movement at all.

    Why voice our opinions only on social media and why not on the streets? I am not an expert in constitutional matters and hence would like the author to explain whether it is unconstitutional for a retired judge to become a member of the Rajya Sabha. Is there any restriction regarding the appointment of a person from a specific profession to the role of the Governor? If something is really unconstitutional then the author can always challenge them in the courts without posting a thread and telling others to voice their opinions. Voicing opinions never works unless concrete action is taken.
    Sankalan

    "Life is easier when you enjoy what you do"

  • #768273

    Points:1
    There may not be a violation of any Constitutional provisions as such. But this learned judge was the chief architect of a very big judgement. We all know what it is all about.

    Now, what is the action Mr.Bhattacharya is talking about? A horrible case with the worst ever deadly violence happens in a vital case. The convicts are released by the State Government of Gujarat on the basis of their good conduct.

    What a great "act"? We all know that this is atrocious and we cannot expect any good "action" from a Govt that is highly biased against minorities, and openly advocating it's horrible political agenda.

  • #768274

    Points:1
    The "action", Mr. Bhattacharya, is to give equal importance to all citizens. In a particular State, the hapless citizens belonging to a minority institution are not even allowed to do small businesses. The goondas and the police hound them and make their life miserable.

    The same minority religion is generally safe in our State of Tamil Nadu. They do big businesses as well. Their sons and daughters are also highly educated and get the IT Jobs or migrate to the Gulf. Their social conditions are far better here.

    The same political and communal party wants to expand here. It has appointed a highly egoistic police officer of the former IPS cadre from Karnataka.

    Not a single day passes without this fellow talking utter nonsense day in and day out. We are not bothered about social conditions. This is because everyone finds something to do. For example, even the educated unemployed, whose only aim is to enter the Government services, engage in some trading. It is impossible for the communal party to break the good bonds between various religions in this State.

    However, we are provided with free entertainment, thanks to their great "leader" whose "actions" make even a five year old child laugh uncontrollably. Yes. We are so happy now, for this free entertainment!!!

  • #768276

    Points:4
    I strongly feel that there are many improvements and corrections needed in our country and no party should be allowed to act atrociously. Earlier Congress ruled the country and now BJP is ruling. But some fundamental aspects are to be taken care of by the ruling regime whichever it is. Statements like 'BJP is comparatively better than Congress' are not going to help.
    Some of the steps that might bring in real development and progress could be as -
    1. Avoiding appeasement of any group including so called minorities.
    2. Appointments to high positions should be merit based.
    3. Reservation policy is to be discontinued and if at all it is to be applied then it should be on the basis of only poor financial condition.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #768278

    Points:5
    The respected author started his thread with this para: "Whenever there is the smallest threat to the secular nature of our Indian Constitution, irrespective of any politics, as common citizens, we all need to voice our opinion."

    The author, in the second para of this thread, has said: "There have several unwelcome and unfortunate trends. A Chief Justice of India retires and becomes a Rajya Sabha member. Another judge becomes Governor of a major South Indian State. We cannot sit and watch these trends in 2023."

    I, a very ordinary Indian, could not understand the co-relation between these two paras. How secularism is endangered if a CJI becomes a Rajya Sabha member or another judge becomes a Governor of a South Indian state.? Besides this, if we don't know the names of the concerned persons from the author, how can we react? Not only that, is former CJI becoming a Governor barred by the Constitution? Can't Judges become Governors?

    Not only these, against which party should we start a movement? Is the author talking about TMC, which, in the name of secularism, distributes entire amount of doles from its meagre resources to a particular community which is a minority in the state? Should we start the movement against a Communist party which has given free hand to a community in two districts of the state (where it is in power) to turn into a ISIS recruitment hub?

    The erudite author must guide us clearly.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #768314

      

    Points:4
    ABSivakumar, your two responses @ #768273 and #768274 are nothing but criticism of a specific political party that you cannot tolerate. Shall we take your entire thread as a criticism only because after your two responses neither the 'action' that you have quoted in your responses is clear nor you have talked about the roadmap? I don't think criticising a particular political party in most of your threads will help unless you fight them politically by joining any outfit that you favour. That would be the best action rather than only vituperation.
    Sankalan

    "Life is easier when you enjoy what you do"

  • #768342

      

    Points:5
    I think (I may be wrong) that the author has brought up four points for us to think about on this New Year. Agreed that he should have concentrated on a point or should have tried to connect the different issues but, nevertheless, let us, as responsible citizens give them a thought.

    First point is regarding threat to the Secular nature of our Constitution. The second is about the appointment of retired people in high positions as Governors etc. The third is about the atrocities committed on a minority community just because they come from a group known as terrorists. And finally, it is about honey traps.

    Let us not talk about Secularism when even the color of a bikini worn by an actress can cause damage to our beliefs. Hinduism was and is a way of life. Why compare it with other religions? And should saffron color be so connected to Hinduism? Are we, those who are not staunch followers, not Hindus?

    Retired officers or judges being appointed to other coveted positions is not unconstitutional and was never a news earlier. But it is so now (?) and that is what makes the point all the more important. Be with us and you will be taken care of seems to be the underlying message. Such appointments and promises may be Constitutional but what about ethics?

    All the Muslims in India do not belong to the category of terrorists. They, I feel, are a minority. Have they ever felt as threatened as of now? I doubt.

    And finally, honey traps. So sorry to say that the BJP at the center have been scripting and directing so many dramas to ensure that they are in power in different states and even at the center. There may not have been honey always but traps were well laid.

    Erudite or otherwise, let us not discard the point put forth by the author. Why be politically inclined, without being reasonable? Let us show the guts to call a 'Spade a Spade'. Can we have a fair (and free) discussion?
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #768351

    Points:0
    "Birds of the same feather flock together."
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #768353

      

    Points:1
    Partha, good! I understand that you have no answer and has taken the safest way out.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #768354

    Points:1
    Partha: Please don't forget what Samuel Langhorne Clemens (Mark Twain) once said.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #768376

      

    Points:2
    Partha @ 768354, could you please be specific? And Partha, what did Mark Twain say? Partha, do not leave your thoughts half baked. Be sure and bold and say what you want to in clear words. Partha, please do remember that we are on a virtual platform.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #768380

    Points:3
    Saji-Sir, Namaskar!

    1. I am grateful that you have taken my name four times in your brief response. This signifies something for me.
    2. I am sure you have heard the word 'soliloquy'. You know how important soliloquy is in Shakespearean dramas.
    3.'To be or not to be....' is the most famous soliloquy of Shakespearean drama which can be read in Hamlet.
    4. Soliloquy is never explained. If explained, it loses its impact. And my response #768354 is a soliloquy.
    5. Shakespeare once said that the entire world is a stage. Similarly, the virtual platform where we operate is a stage.
    6. And all of us including Saji-Sir and Partha K. are dramatis personae.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #768388

      

    Points:2
    Partha, can you please respond to the point? Leave it if you don't have answers. Do not go haywire. And regarding mentioning your name time and again, that was intentional since you seem to love projecting yourself as 'Partha', the one and only one as claimed by you.

    Let me remind you that 'namaskar' is not solicited. Let us be respectful in its true sense.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #768391

    Points:2
    I request Saji Sir to read Point No. 4 of my previous response (#768380). Most probably he missed it due to his extremely busy schedule.

    I clearly stated that my earlier response at #768354 was a soliloquy which would lose its impact if we try to elaborate or amplify.

    Finally, I have noted that Saji Sir has opined that " 'namaskar' is not solicited. Let us be respectful in its true sense ". In future, while addressing him, I will use different form of salutation which may be more acceptable to him.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #768397

      

    Points:2
    Partha, I do have enough time to spend for people like you. Don't worry about that.

    'Soliloquy', is not a term that can keep us, common people, engaged. It might need lot of references.

    I am asking you again, 'Why can't you be straight?' What prompts you to be indirect?
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #768398

    Points:2
    Isn't the member who has raised the threat, indirect? Think and reply.

    My responses are basically in respect of the main post. If the main post is not straight, it is quite natural, the responses would be tangential.

    I reiterate that my response at #768354 was/is a soliloquy.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali


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