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    Points:5
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    Education without a proper behaviour is of no use

    Generally we all feel educated people will behave sensibly than uneducated. Another belief is that education will bring discipline to the individual. But these days the incidents that are happening around are making us to think that education and behaviour are no way related

    A medical PG student killed herself because of the unbearable behaviour of her senior students. Her complaints to the college principal and head of the department are unheard. Finally she took such a drastic decision and committed suicide.

    An engineering student killed another engineering student as both of them loved the same girl.Both the boys were good friends but their love affair made one person to kill the other.

    What is the use of such education if they commit crimes without thinking about their life and others lives. I feel such an education is of no use.
  • #769926

    Points:3
    While education can give you knowledge, it cannot teach you how to be a decent person. To respond to every circumstance, we need wisdom. Education by itself is never a guarantee that one will be a nice person.

    I am saddened about the incidents mentioned by the author in the above thread. Before education, we need to be better people. As rightly pointed by the author, education itself is of no use if you don't have basic empathy towards your fellow being,

  • #769933

      

    Points:2
    Dr Rao, my intention is not to offend or discourage you but I would like you to please explain the difference in the idea behind your thread and the recent thread here.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #769936

    Points:4
    What the author has indicated is the individual behaviour pattern. The animal inside us never dies which is deeply rooted in our minds and even educating them sometimes does not help them to curb their animal like thoughts and can manifest sometimes if the situations for them becomes unmanageable. We cannot eliminate our inner instincts sometimes despite the best education received from best institutions. On the other hand, a normal man not educated though in the best colleges might be sensible and reasonable in their behaviours.

  • #769937

    Points:4
    I completely agree with the author's view. Such kinds of incidents are going to be common. People are getting educated but great lack of behavior and manner. Recently, one incident happened in our local area where son broke his mother's leg on a small issue. Son is a scholar in studies and doing a job in a big company. Right from the beginning, parents emphasizes on academic records. They never care about behavior, manners, and practical knowledge. The goal of modern education is to get a job. As a result, people are suffering.

  • #769939

    Points:4
    Education today is purely academic in nature and there is no moral education being imparted in the education institutions. Even if the moral education is being imparted in some of the places our society and family atmospheres have become so free and different that the moral teachings lose their significance.
    For the students to behave properly and in a matured fashion, school as well as family both the places should be inculcating ethics and values in them. But it is not happening and the result is in front of our eyes.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #769940

    Points:5
    Parents in general struggle hard to give good education to their children so that when they grow up they become well-settled in life. Even parents who belong to the lower-income group send their children to private schools paying a good amount of money. They do not understand how the children of highly educated parents conduct themselves in public. I feel that poor parents who can not afford to pay the fees of private schools should send their children to schools run by the government where no fees are charged.
    Indeed, even the so-called doctors, engineers, and highly qualified professionals ill-treat their parents privately and unabashedly declare in the presence of their friends and relatives that they have been taking care of their parents very well. I have seen some old women visiting the hospital all alone despite having grown-up children.
    The time has come when the parents openly revolt against the children who behave badly with them and bring it to the notice of their relatives.
    It is the fault of their parents for the ruthless behavior of their children because they had brought up their children like princes and princesses by providing them with the best education and the best comfort in life. Such a way of upbringing has backfired on them. I believe that if they had taken the stick and hit them hard when they would have disrespected their parents, they would have been the most kind-hearted and loving adults when they have grown up now.
    Just look around the sophisticated and modern educated couple and their children when you visit a mall in big cities. You will notice the high attitude of at least some of them and how they behave with other public. The children also scream and run helter-skelter causing disturbance to the public. Many of them do not use the words 'please and sorry.

  • #769948

    Points:5
    I don't think education is related to these unfortunate incidents in any way.

    So far as the suicide of the suicide of the medical PG student, please note the chain of events:
    (a) Dr. Preethi Dharavath was a 26-year-old PG medical student at Kakatiya Medical College in Warangal, Telangana. She belonged to the Dalit community.
    (b) Immediately, Indian liberals attacked Modi and BJP for the suicide of the Dalit students. (Why Modi, nobody knows. The ruling party in Telangana is TRS/BRS). They started talking about brutal torture of Dalit students by caste Hindus in Modi's India.
    (c) Then we came to know that the hapless student committed suicide due to relentless ragging and harassment by a senior male student, who happens to be from 'a particular community'.
    (d) Immediately, just like magic, the hullabaloo from the liberal Indians have stopped.

    Now, kindly tell me how education is related to this terrible case of suicide and subsequent events.

    I firmly believe in danda-treatment. The senior student (who harassed Dr. Preethi), his family members and those liberals who blamed every Hindu for such brutality, must be subjected to brutal danda-treatment, before sending them to custody.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #769949

      

    Points:5
    As per reliable reports, Dr Preethi Dharavath committed suicide due to the harassment by her senior colleague Dr Saif. Her father had complained that she was harassed since she was a tribal girl. A case has been registered and the accused has been arrested. This being the fact as is available now, I am quite confused about the projected report given above by Partha. I fail to understand the reason behind his bringing up Sri Modi and the liberals as characters in this incident. May be he would like to clarify.

    And to his averment that education is not related to this unfortunate incident, I think he is wrong. Proper education is supposed to make one disciplined and civilized. If we are still holding on to religious and caste based discrimination, I doubt whether we are moving ahead or going back to the pre-Constitutional era.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #769952

    Points:5
    I am trying to address the issues raised by Saji Sir in his response at #769949.

    I don't know whether Saji Sir has any Twitter account, or not. If he actually has, then I don't know which topics/persons he follows. I have a Twitter account and I follow the top-level liberals of the country.

    I observed that as soon as the painful suicide of the promising medical PG students came to light, those liberals attacked Modi and BJP. They said that casteist Hindus kill Dalits in Modi's India, bla, bla, bla...... Although law & order is a state subject, I couldn't find any comment on NTR, the chief minister of Telangana, from these enlightened criminals (oops, liberals!).

    But, as soon as we came to know that the person whose acts abetted Dr. Preethi to commit suicide, belongs to 'that privileged/pampered community', the enlightened liberals have suddenly become silent. Isn't it a magic?

    Finally I would humbly request Saji Sir not to forget that Janab Jinnah or Janab Owaisi or even Comrade Charu Majumdar or Comrade Jyoti Basu, were/are well-educated.. But education did not deter them to create mayhem in the country or accomplish complete stagnation (in leftist-ruled states).
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #769953

      

    Points:4
    Partha, that was enlightening. I just realized that opinion or musings on Twitter is so reliable. I always thought that it was a platform to express individual views and we need to take it in that spirit only. And I also realize why blind followers of the Saffron brigade must make it a point to follow the so- called liberals on Twitter. These kind of revelations are eye-openers.

    So, should I stop following the news reports (again the question of those supporting the center and those who criticize them may come up) and follow Twitter accounts of the followers of the Saffron brigade to get a correct picture? I think the learned opinion suggests so. And I also need to make corrections to the list of educated leaders who create/ have created mayhem in this country. Let me think it over.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #769955

    Online

    Points:1
    Partha
    The people involved in these incidents are educated and they should understand the importance of values in life more than anybody else. If such people are indulging in such activities, what about people with no education? That is why I brought this thread. No other thing is in my mind.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #769956

    Online

    Points:1
    Saji,
    When I read these two incidents in paper, I got emotional. There was a big discussion in our house among us. Then I thought I should open a thread citing these two incidents. I never thought this will become a repetition. Here the importance is the education levels of the people involved. Anyhow, I regret the inconvenience caused to you.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #769957

    Points:4
    Relating or linking incidents happening in our country to politics or taking political advantage out of that is not a new thing and social media is the right place for it where different agencies and individuals interpret it in their own ways and the visitors to the social media get a variety of colours related to these incidents.
    The basic thing is that harassment was there and how the environment of our present educational institutes is related to it is the topic to be discussed under this post. I believe that lack of discipline, order, and ethics in the present environment is definitely responsible for many such incidents. It is not only the sole reason but one of the prominent one.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #769959

    Online

    Points:1
    Education these days is not making the person to know the ethics and values and their importance. Education is giving some knowledge and degrees and they are useful for our earnings. That is the most unfortunate issue we are witnessing these days in many institutions. Some people always try to take advantage for their political betterment out of such situations also. Very unfortunate.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #769960

    Points:3
    To:
    Saji Sir (#769953)

    Those liberals painstakingly build anti-India narrative in western countries (using NYT, WaPo, etc.) through their Twitter handles. Considering this fact, can't a lesser mortal like Partha even follow their Twitter handles?

    Sir, what is your opinion on danda-therapy to the educated, emancipated criminals?
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #769961

    Points:5
    Sanchita Ranjan(#769937) has noted "Such kinds of incidents are going to be common. People are getting educated but great lack of behavior and manner. "
    I am afraid we are focusing not on the real malaise but acting blind by closing our eyes to the underlining reasons and facts.
    In the early days when large section of the people were uneducated, such incidents were unheard of occurring very rarely. We used to hear about occasional suicides here and there due to failed love. Attempt to suicide was a punishable offence then.

    Now society has become liberal, people consider themselves to have become more 'understanding, accommodative and broadminded. Most people are educated. Even then such tragic incidences and numerous heinous and cruel crimes are happening every day as routine. People in general have lost their sense of response and reaction.

    Many factors including the lack of stringent, timely and exemplary punishments; a general lack of concern by society, a wrong sense of heroism and iconic status given to misadventures by the TV, film and social media; the general contraction of humans to their own individual shells and closets rather than behaving as a responsible community ; political parties protecting and patronizing goons and criminals' all these have contributed to these horrific and chilling incidents. Unfortunately because of the large penetration of social media there are a section of people who condone, and even idolize crimes and criminals. Mostly these are vocal sections and influence the vulnerable tens and youth.

    Only a concerted and sincere consistent efforts of society and government with strong political will can reduce these neo style crimes and crime abetments.

  • #769962

      

    Points:3
    Partha, your response at #769960 is simply what you do when you exhaust your gunpowder and have nothing more to say. So, I am calling it a day. But please keep it in mind that you must not try to use platforms like this to propagate your religious emotions or political inclinations.

    Let us hope that people will prefer to become more sensible and wise while adding educational qualifications to their profile. Let education help people to become better human beings.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #769964

    Points:0
    1. "Partha, your response at #769960 is simply what you do when you exhaust your gunpowder and have nothing more to say"------------- Gunpowder won't be exhausted till Partha says goodbye to the world.

    2. "..... (you) have nothing more to say." -------- Thanks to the interesting (!) activities of the privileged members of the pampered community, Partha will always have something to say.

    3. "I am calling it a day. "--------- At last, good sense prevails!

    4. "....please keep it in mind that you must not try to use platforms like this to propagate your emotions...." ------ I interpret this as: Truth about the privileged people always hurts.

    5. "Let us hope that people will prefer to become more sensible and wise while adding educational qualifications to their profile." ------Personally speaking, my profile says: "Qualifications: Barely literate. Joined ISC to learn from erudite members."

    Good Day, Sir!

    (Saving this response elsewhere)
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #769967

    Points:5
    Education is mainly meant for realization of a thing or happening around us. An action of an educated person should be expected differently from the same of an uneducated one. An animal can run on dung or ditch water abruptly by splashing on others but if a man runs so, will the people tolerate? Wise action of a man is normally expected from an educated person. If the suicides or killings, as told by the author, committed by an educated person, it is not tolerable on any account. Here killings means not only killing the person physically but at the same time killing others with words also. Many people without minding their educational status, killing others or hurting others with words and only a few of them felt sorry later on realization.
    Ravana, the King of Lanka was a highly educated person, master of many arts and he wrote many books on several topics including medicines but in spite of his one bad thought of abducing Sita his total character got damaged and leads to total ruin of his Kingdom.


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