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    How to systematically destroy the institution of Marriage

    Twenty-five-year-old influencer Sofi Maure disclosed in the social media on 20th February 2023 that she loved her the most. So, she was going to marry herself. She sought the blessings of her followers and well-wishers for her marriage. She also posted pictures wearing a white bridal gown and a resplendent gold tiara.

    But she started hating herself (or her other self?) within 24 hours of her marriage. On 21st February, Ms. Maure tweeted that she is considering getting a divorce. She wrote: "update: one day I'm married to myself and I can't take it anymore, I'm seeing how the divorce issue is just in case".

    Both these posts resulted in different types of reactions which I don't want to reproduce here.

    I am only wondering how these social media luminaries are destroying systemically the institution of marriage to get some attention from their followers.

    I also know that some people would support this type of activity in the name of personal freedom/choice.
  • #770369
    I want to know why publicity like reporting it in the media, whether online or print, and raising this forum thread, is given to such incidents. What other people do in their personal lives when it is not really harming anyone is nobody's business, surely. Why should we even discuss this? Is the institution of marriage so fragile that it is going to be affected? I think not!
    When you make a commitment, you create hope. When you keep a commitment you create trust! ~ John C. Maxwell

  • #770371
    Should I construe the response as a support for the action of Ms. Sofi Maure? In that case, my assumption at the last para of my post proves to be correct.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #770372
    Not surprising that you choose to interpret somebody's response in your own way, twist it, and make assumptions as per your own convenience, instead of understanding the message that has been very clearly conveyed. I rest my case!
    When you make a commitment, you create hope. When you keep a commitment you create trust! ~ John C. Maxwell

  • #770379
    I hope the author is not 'influenced' by the twenty-five-year-old 'influencer'. I also hope that no portion of my response will be quoted in the response of the author if at all he wishes to respond. The institution of marriage is not destroyed in this act, though some may think it is a way to destroy it. Any comments or views on any matter are personal and because of the freedom to express such things to a large audience social media platforms are so popular. Let's keep this discussion only on social media as this serves no other purpose than expressing one's views.

    I have heard one incident quite similar to the one described in the post a couple of years ago. Can't remember the name of the person or place from where it was reported and I think many more such incidents are going to occur in the future too. There is no need to worry and also no need to discuss such activities in detail on this platform as this becomes just like a report of who did what.

    Sankalan

    "Life is easier when you enjoy what you do"

  • #770392
    Sankalan, isn't it my prerogative or freedom of choice to get 'influenced' by a beautiful, young, vivacious, energetic 25-year old influencer of opposite sex?

    Leaving aside this aspect, let me discuss the institution of marriage. You have stated in your response that you think many more such incidents are going to occur in future also. That is the precise reason I have stated that they are systematically undermining and destroying the sacred institution of marriage. And many liberal people and media are going ga-ga over it.

    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #770395
    I will not speak in favor or against the decision of the girl mentioned and defend her choice but will try to answer the question through the analogy.
    One person's action can never do any harm to an institution like marriage otherwise so many progressive thing happened in society but it never impacted the patriarchal biases in a marriage. So many influencers live a life that will never be accepted by the institution of patriarchy but the institution still stands.
    I agree with Vandana Maam here completely about the relevance of this post. Why does the author have such fears? and why does it matter to him so much?

    "It is hardest thing in the world to be good thinker without being a good self examiner"

  • #770397
    Neelam Madam: I am also going to give an example to prove how the institution of marriage is being undermined and belittled. Only a couple of days back, there was a discussion on NDTV regarding 'same-sex marriage'. I watched it. Many so-called liberals were ridiculing people who don't believe in this concept.
    In this way, the liberals undermine and systematically destroy the concept of marriage. And, in India, there are many impressionable young minds who try to follow those liberal intellectuals because they think that such concepts are 'hatke' concept and must be followed.
    I hope I have made myself clear.

    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #770400
    We are observing today such bizzare patterns in social media and many of them are the result of identity crisis of the individual. They create some interesting and attractive post for the attention of the people and sometimes if the topic is really that interesting it becomes a viral post and the whole world would be viewing it and forwarding it to the friends and members of a social media group. The post will get wide publicity and soon it will fade out and some another attraction seeking post will take its place.
    Internet has become a showcase of all this type of interesting and sometimes abnormal posts which draw the attraction of a large number of people. But the trend subsides soon and no harm is going to be there out of it.

    Knowledge is power.

  • #770403
    Let us not be influenced with some isolated instances taking places of immediate divorce after the marriage. There are definitely some couples having unstable temperaments, who become happy with their finalisation of marriages but on the next moments, they are extremely for their such decisions.
    While considering our own cultures in India, we are try to adjust with our partners to the best possible ways because of our traditional values. The unity after tying knot would offer the couples the guarantee of a life where both the couple would enjoy mutual trust and faith despite the opinion differences which might crop up sometimes.

  • #770407
    What I don't understand is as to why the author cannot be straight with what he wants to convey. I am sure that the point he wants to discuss is about the ongoing legal issue of marriage between people of the same sex. The Supreme Court having ruled earlier that Sec 377 of the Indian Penal Code which dealt with unnatural offences is unconstitutional is now dealing with a few petitions asking for legalization of marriages between people belonging to the same sex. This is being vehemently opposed by not only the Central government but also by all those who consider marriage as a sacrosanct institution.

    Why we need to bother about a few (not just liberals) who choose to differ? I did not want to but do feel that it would be relevant here to point out how important the institution of marriage is for the center that is led by none other than our PM.

    I think it would be pertinent in this connection to remind our members of the practice of 'tree marriages' that existed in India. Can we call it a marriage? I don't want to get into the meaning or the definition of the term marriage here.

    Partha is worried about the social media luminaries trying to destroy the fabric of the institution but, I think, he is doing the same by bringing the Sofi Maure drama (Yes, it was a mere social media gimmick) for discussion yet again. Politically inclined is fine but one should be politically correct too.

    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #770416
    Meaning of marriage is a legally accepted relationship between two people living together. Generally. the marriage will be between a gent and a lady. When they have one or two kids, they will become common property and the bond between the two will become strong. Whether it is between a man and a woman or between two same-gender persons, living together for long depends on the adjustment nature of the two living together. If that is not there we will see that they will get separated.
    But in the modern world different types of people and different mentalities. Some stray incidents may happen. Immediately they may not cause any threat to the institution of marriage. But we have to wait and see the long-term implications. But I never heard of the concept of a person marrying himself/ herself.

    drrao
    always confident

  • #770433
    Only a few days back, I silently took a resolve to avoid political issues as much as possible and try to be a good boy on ISC. On the next day after taking this resolve, I saw this interesting news and started thinking how these social media celebrities are making a mockery of marriage. So, I raised this thread. No political issue came to mind while writing this post.

    But I must admit that Saji Sir has given a brilliant twist to this post. A post on purely a social issue has been brilliantly converted into an anti-Modi rhetoric (although laughable).

    Such twist and turn! If Saji Sir would try to play cricket as a spin-bowler, I am sure his state would get a brilliant spinner with his prodigious twist and turn.

    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #770434
    The person referred in the thread may or may not have a conscious intention of breaking or belittling the institution of marriage. There is no other corroborating evidence other than the publicized action and the contextual statement of that person.

    So I consider it just as an attention seeking gimmick in these days of quick spread of anything in social media. Even the mainstream media now picks up 'news' and 'exposures' from the social media popularity and 'virality' of anything- fact, fiction or fraud.

    Many such things become topic of wide debate and discussion thanks to the urge of sensationalizing anything to bring visits, and views for web sites and mainstream media channels. Naturally for anything there will be two sides -one supporting and the other opposing- both for their own reasons and benefits.

    The best way to defeat such publicity seekers is to simply ignore and do our mite by not spreading it by not discussing it, not quoting it nor forwarding nor sharing it in other spaces and social sites. And straightaway deleting it if it is incoming in our WhatsApp etc.

    Unfortunately, here the author has precisely done a publicity support for the person by bringing it in this discussion forum. Many of the forum readers who would have read the referred subject but would have just ignored it -as they do not approve it or take it as only a public stunt- are now forced to bring more light and brightness to the same matter which the thread author expresses to be against system and traditional institutions.

    So I see the thread author also indirectly supporting and spreading the referred action (though he puts up a stand against it)and bringing it to the attention of many who may not have noticed or read about the original report content. In that light I feel the original person is more open and direct.


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