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    Points:5

    Mughal Empire from Class 12 NCERT History book removed

    The National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) periodically reviews and modifies the syllabus and textbooks in accordance with the changing social, political, and cultural context of the country. As part of this process, NCERT has revised the syllabus for Class 12 History, which includes the removal of some chapters related to the Mughal Empire.

    According to reports, the NCERT has removed three chapters related to the Mughal Empire from the Class 12 History book. These chapters include "Akbar", "Jahangir", and "Shah Jahan". The move has sparked controversy, with some critics accusing the NCERT of distorting history and promoting a particular ideology.

    However, the NCERT has stated that the revision of the syllabus is aimed at promoting a more holistic and balanced understanding of history. The council has emphasized that the chapters related to the Mughal Empire have not been removed completely, but have been merged with other chapters to provide a more comprehensive view of Indian history.

    The NCERT has also clarified that the removal of some chapters does not mean that the contribution of the Mughal Empire to Indian history is being undermined. The council has stated that the revised syllabus includes a detailed study of the Mughal Empire, along with other important aspects of Indian history.

    What is your view on this topic? Is NCERT distorting history and promoting a particular ideology or is the change holistic toward Indian History?
  • #772217

    Points:3
    History should be presented in an unbiased manner and weightage should be given to different cultures and communities which ruled the world during the historical periods. If due to some reason history was presented in distorted form then there is nothing wrong in correcting it. But we must remember that corrections should be proper and only to that limit which makes it a more balanced and more correct in all propositions.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #772218

    Points:5
    Yesterday, I was watching the interview of the Chairman, NCERT. He clearly said that the syllabus of all subjects including History has been rationalised. Secondly, he clearly mentioned that those famous (infamous?) Mughal rulers are extensively studied in Standard VIII and Standard IX history books. So, to avoid 'overlapping', these Mughal chapters have been deleted from Standard XII.

    When I first got this news, I exclaimed: "After long last!" But, now I realise that our target is not fully achieved. Along with this deletion, Indian students must study extensively about those emperors and kingdoms who/which brought greater glory and were engaged in more extensive welfare activities for the common people.

    Now we must work in that direction and influence the Government to include those chapters covering Chola kingdom, Pala kingdom, Gupta dynasty, Pratihara kingdom, Pallava architecture , India's maritime history, Kanishka, Krishnadeva Raya, and others.

    We must also re-write the history of the freedom struggle in India in proper perspective.

    Finally, thanks to the respected member who has raised this Forum post.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772221

    Points:4
    Being a student at Ignou University of Masters in history, it must be removed from our syllabus also. it's important to note that curriculum and textbook content can vary by region, educational board, and individual schools or institutions. It's always best to refer to the latest and official curriculum guidelines and textbooks provided by your local educational authorities for the most up-to-date and accurate information. If you have specific questions about the Mughal Empire or any other topic, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to provide information based on my training data up until September 2021. If there have been any recent changes, it would be best to refer to the official sources for the latest information.

  • #772224

    Points:1
    Kris Martin,

    You have written like;
    "It's always best to refer to the latest and official curriculum guidelines and textbooks provided by your local educational authorities for the most up-to-date and accurate information."

    What is the most up to date & accurate thing related to Mughal Empire or Mughal History? Myself being a technocrat and little knowledge in Indian History are unable to digest your phrase mentioned above. Can you please elaborate?

    Thanks & regards
    "Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
    Discover the world with wondrous insight."

  • #772231

      

    Points:3
    It is all fun when a government tries to rewrite history. Let the government at the center break up Qutub Minar and Taj Mahal too. Such a sad state of affairs!

    And Partha at #772218, I did read about Cholas, Pandyas, Guptas etc during my school days and those were part of our History lessons. Should I send you copies of the lessons as proof? Please avoid spreading fake news.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #772232

    Points:5
    Many academicians in India also feel that there should be a change in the History topics that are being taught to high school children. As mentioned by the Chairman, NCERT, there is a repetition of topics in history books for different grades. So it is wise to remove repetitive topics. In place of such topics, new topics can be introduced.
    We are coming across many unknown freedom fighters who sacrificed their lives in the struggle for freedom. Many students never even heard their names also. So some topics about the freedom struggle highlighting the contributions of such people also will make the students and younger generation know about such people also.
    It should be noted that while making some changes the academicians should be careful and should not attempt to present altered history which will be a problem again. To correct some mistakes committed earlier we should not do new mistakes and give scope for others to comment.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #772234

    Points:2
    Some people also say that the Nazi Holocaust is taught all over the world in school textbooks, museums, movies and shows. It is not omitted from school textbooks.

    Likewise, Mughals must be named and shamed. We cannot afford to hide the truth of the Mughals from our future generations. Otherwise, they will be prone to repeat the same mistakes which our ancestors did.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772235

    Points:2
    #772231: "It is all fun when a government tries to rewrite history."------For the last seven and a half year or so, I have been trying to say that it is not possible to rewrite history, but we must rewrite our history books. But the respected Member is hell-bent not to understand the difference between the two.
    Impossible to change the pre-programmed mind.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772239

    Points:5
    Super effort by the authorities as they are encouraging our youngsters from knowing about their fore rulers. This enable the youngsters making themselves away from knowing the history and culture of their land. Our India is a nation filled with abundant culture. The monuments, scripts, sculptures are the base for the culture. We present people cannot do anything equal to them even highly educated or talented. This we can understand only if we see the sculptures made by the earlier rulers of our Country. We should know the good and bad of them as to correct ourselves from removing that bad culture in us and developing good in us. Irrespective of Muslim rulers, Hoysala, Pallava, Pandya, Chola and Chera kings did many things for our welfare. Biggest temples they made in those days only for our pleasure only. We may not mind the background of the construction but should astonish their expertise even highly educated like us, the present generations.
    Moreover, if this trend goes well, we all will forget or show less interest in knowing the names of our parents and other ancestors of our own family. Even today many of us do not know the names of their grandfather/grand mother.

  • #772242

      

    Points:2
    Partha, you say Mughals must be named and shamed. Why? If Mughals had captured and ruled India (Bharat) or many parts of it, so have the East India Company/ Britain. What is your difference of opinion in that case?

    And you did not (as usual) respond to my query. Why?
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #772243

    Points:5
    #772242:

    1. If you don't understand why 'Mughals should be named and shamed, it proves that your history education is very poor. It may be your fault, your teacher's fault or the fault of the history book which you studied. This proves the need of revising the history syllabus which writes only imaginary good things about the Mughals.

    2. Why do you assume my view about the East India Company is different? Don't assume things. Both Mughals and British were terrible and came from outside to rule India. But entry of British was facilitated by third-grade Mo%lem rulers like Abu'l Muzaffar Muin ud-din Muhammad Shah Farrukh-siyar Alim Akbar Sani Wala Shan Padshah-i-bahr-u-bar or Mirza Muhammad Siraj ud-Daulah. Most probably you have not read about them (how they helped the British to establish and consolidate).

    3. :And you did not (as usual) respond to my query. "-------------What query?

    Finally, I appreciate on record the effort of the present Central Government for at least making an effort to correct the destructive course initiated by Nehru and his gang of historians.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772244

    Points:1
    Saji Ganesh,

    Valid points against Mr. Parthas comments. Mughals can't be shamed. They are the main reason for this cultural diversity in India. Some of the great rulers like Akbar, Jahangir etc are testimonials rulers of that era. Their efforts are same or even bigger than Ashoka, Guptas or Mauryas. Akbar especially was a man of tactical diplomacy, promotor of brotherhood, religious tolerance and what not. We should not forget that easily!

    "Culture is the widening of the mind and of the spirit. It is never a mere fact of heritage or a matter of birth; it is a force, a tangible deposit of the thoughts and achievements of the ages, and a mirror which reflects the glory of a particular race and period." - Jawaharlal Nehru

    This quote reminds us that culture is not just a static aspect of our past, but a living force that shapes our present and future. Forgetting or neglecting our cultural heritage means losing a vital source of knowledge and inspiration that can help us navigate the complexities of the modern world. Instead, we should strive to preserve and celebrate the rich traditions and values that have sustained India for centuries, and use them as a foundation for building a brighter and more inclusive future.
    "Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
    Discover the world with wondrous insight."

  • #772248

    Points:5
    The National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) is responsible for creating and publishing textbooks for schools in India. However, to the best of my knowledge, the Mughal Empire is not deleted from NCERT textbooks.

    In fact, NCERT has several textbooks that cover the Mughal Empire and its history in detail. For instance, the NCERT Class 7 textbook on Social Science covers the Mughal Empire extensively, including its administration, art and architecture, economy, society, and culture. Similarly, NCERT Class 12 textbooks on History also cover the Mughal Empire and its rulers.
    It is possible that certain revisions or updates have been made to the NCERT textbooks over time, which may have resulted in changes to the way certain topics are presented. However, it would be inaccurate to say that the history of the Mughal Empire has been deleted from NCERT textbooks.
    Service to mankind is service to God.

  • #772252

    Points:5
    I would not tell that there should not be modification of chapters relating to History if there had been elaborate description of the same things earlier. If the details of such characters were included in class seven text books of NCERT and the committee finds that the contents are more or less resembling in the text books of higher classes say in the text book of class twelve in History, there is definitely a necessity of incorporation of new studies having been uncovered but could have been of profound importance of our leaders taking part in the struggle movement during the pre- independence era. The readers of History would be highly amused with their sacrifices such as Batukeshwer Dutta, Bhagat Singh, Khudiram Bose and many more prominent characters taking part actively for the independence.
    A balanced approach of inclusion of all great heroes in the text book would enrich the knowledge of the readers substantially.

  • #772257

    Points:2
    I reiterate that deletion of chapters on infamous Mughal rulers is to avoid overlapping of same topics which are already there in lower classes.
    I also reiterate that many people including myself support this deletion.
    Let us study India's illustrious maritime history instead.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772258

    Points:5
    As it says in the thread itself that the subject of mughal is not totally removed but minimize in 12th standard. Why this is so much hue and cry for this? And how it is a culture threat? The details of mughal's history are already there from 6th to 10th standard. Whatever we have already learn in details, I don't understand the logic that same thing should be study in the upper class? When we study in our school, where we had 3-4 page of details about mughals, same time we had half page of Maharana pratap or Rajputs details. My question is only learning about Mughals in history can save our culture? What about other kings?
    British also have ruled us, they also have built so many things, but we have no details about that.
    And how can be one so sure that Akbar has done more than the other kings like Ashoka, Gupta and Mauryas, is there anyone alive to see it by their eyes? No, what we talk about mughals king is what we have been taught. If history has said that Ashoka has done greater work than Akbar, we had to believe the same.

    Recently, I read Nasuruddinn Shah comments that if mughals were so bad, break the kutubminar and tajmahal. Later, I found that his new webseries "Taj"was released which a mughal based story. So, such kind of people we have in our country who just to get cheap attention and to promote movie or webseries, create controversy statements.

    Now, time has come to come out from appeasement politics and think what can be better for the country. Simply saying one is better others are not on the basis of history book should be stopped.

  • #772259

    Points:3
    Jeets and Indu Singh Madam have precisely understood the issue.

    Only studying Mughals in Class-XIIth won't save our culture.

    Further, there have been lots of changes in syllabus of all subjects including Physics, Chemistry, Maths, Geography, Political Science, Statistics, Zoology, Botany, etc. Then why the liberals want to discuss the changes only in history and political science? Is this agenda-driven?
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772267

    Points:1
    Good to have a heated topic on board. Thanks to all those who contributed to my thread.
    "Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
    Discover the world with wondrous insight."

  • #772272

      

    Points:1
    Partha, please explain 'overlapping' and 'infamous'. I think we need clarity.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #772279

    Points:4
    Saji Sir (#772272):

    Let me first take the word 'infamous'. Infamous is opposite of 'famous'. Many people call the Mughal rulers famous. A greater number of people (including myself) call them infamous due to their anti-people activities and killing of people on the basis of religious identity.

    Now, let me come to 'overlapping'. Cambridge Dictionary defines it as 'covering something partly by going over its edge, or covering part of the same space'.

    If you need further clarity about this, you have to ask Dr. Dinesh Prasad Saklani, Director, NCERT, who actually used this term.

    Though, I do understand that pre-programmed mind doesn't get any clarity to any view which is not pre-programmed.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772288

    Points:2
    The NCERT may delete or add any topic in the textbooks on History. It cannot erase history. History is something that actually happened and cannot be ignored.
    " Be Good and Do Good "

  • #772289

    Points:4
    Now, after successfully downgrading the importance of the invaders, it is time to re-write the chapters relating to freedom movement of India in our history books. Great freedom-fighters who took more important roles must be acknowledged. Our students must read about the last thrust for freedom given by the INA and Naval Mutiny. Armed struggle and its importance in achieving freedom must be fully acknowledged.

    'India Wins Freedom' is not appropriate. The Indian students must learn to say: 'India Wrests Freedom.'
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772291

      

    Points:5
    As done by some members in this thread, people are merely parroting the reason that NCERT gave for the changes, such as it is studied in an earlier class, instead of coming up with some valid views for the move.

    So what if it was studied earlier? Schoolchildren learn certain things again, such as concepts in mathematics, English grammar rules, etc in higher classes. The point of such learning is to reinforce knowledge and get a better grasp of it. So what is wrong with learning about the Mughal Empire again? And, just like other dynasties, the history of the Mughals is not merely about their invasions and the battles that they fought. We learned about their glorious monuments in the same vein as learning about splendid temples, both architecturally marvelous and major tourist attractions for global visitors. We learned about certain Emperors' administrative acumen, and their support of music and culture (have you forgotten Birbal and Tansen?) in the same vein as we did of Kings. The bravery of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj and his warriors and the history of the Maratha Empire just cannot be taught without detailed reference (if repeated again so what!) to the Mughal Empire.

    I just hope the day will not come when story books of Emperor Akbar and the brilliant Birbal or Amar Chitra Kathaa's Stories from the Mughal Court will be snatched from a child's hand on the grounds that it is not suitable for so-called "holistic" development, and limit their world to a few lines just mentioning their names (maybe not even that one day) in an NCERT school's history book.
    When you make a commitment, you create hope. When you keep a commitment you create trust! ~ John C. Maxwell

  • #772292

    Points:5
    #772291:

    (a) " Schoolchildren learn certain things again, such as concepts in mathematics, English grammar rules, etc in higher classes."------------ This proves the respected member hasn't studied Mathematics at higher level. In college or in university, we never studied arithmetic, algebra, trigonometry ,etc. We studied Mathematical analysis, Vector, Tensor, Complex Algebra, Statics & Dynamics, 3-D Geometry, LPP, Game Theory, etc. The analogy given by the author has failed miserably.

    (b) A student of Indian history will study Mughal empire in VIIth to XIIth and then again in Graduation and PG and neglect all other great kingdoms (e.g. Pala Dynasty, Pratihar Dynasty), great rulers (e.g. Kanishka, Kharbela, Shkandgupta, Rajaraja Chola, Shrak-san-Gampo), etc. Isn't it parroting the ridiculous logic of other members?
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772293

      

    Points:3
    If some particular kingdom that is essential (I repeat essential) to learn history has been left out and needs to be studied again with further detail, then why not add it to the syllabi?

    Regarding maths and English- don't students study algebra in school and again in Class 12? What about adjectives and adverbs? Aren't these taught in school and also part of the syllabus for Class 12?
    When you make a commitment, you create hope. When you keep a commitment you create trust! ~ John C. Maxwell

  • #772305

      

    Points:5
    Removing or adding new chapters from Class X or XII history books will not make any difference in learning the subject. Remember, when something is there in the syllabus it means questions from those chapters will be asked during the examination and things beyond the syllabus will not be asked during the exams of that standard/class. This has got to do nothing with learning a subject.

    The author and many other members have talked about some dynasties and rulers. How did the author and other members get to know about such dynasties or rulers if they are not in the books they studied during their student days? It's only because of the interest of the person she/he learns. In most cases, students learn subject matters during the school level to score high marks in competitive exams and to get admission to higher studies. After getting into higher studies, they learn many things based on their interest and if they are not willing to learn they just study to score high marks and pass the papers. A syllabus is just a prescribed format of a certain board/university on which questions will be asked in the examinations conducted by the board/university. Learning doesn't follow any syllabus and it continues as long as one wishes. So irrespective of whether it's in the syllabus or not if references of things are available interested persons will find them.
    Sankalan

    "Life is easier when you enjoy what you do"

  • #772320

    Points:4
    Chapters on Mughal emperors will definitely go from the syllabus of Class- XI and Class-XII. Even after this deletion, students will learn about these tyrannical rulers.

    Instead of these rulers, the students must study Ahom kingdom of present-day Assam who kicked out Aurangzeb (Battle of Saraighat), Krishnadev Raya of Vijayanagara kingdom or Dharmapal-Devpal of Pala Dynasty and Lalitaditya Muktapid from Kashmir, whose kingdom reached parts of Central Asia.

    I do hope that the content relating to history of the freedom movement of the country would now be re-assessed.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772321

    Points:5
    What is history? It is a chronicle of events in the past.
    Though we live in the present, we need to know what happened in the past to form our vision ,our heritage and identity and then relate to the present. Heritage is like the DNA .It forms the basic uniqueness of the citizenry of a particular nation.
    Hence the history has to be rightly passed on the different generations. Unfortunately history becomes mostly interpretations of those who were firsthand witness at that time or the next immediate generation who had heard it from the first hand people. From then on the actual history gets diluted and corrupted and many new things get introduced and interpreted and many old facts get remove. The history slowly becomes biased versions as per the historian(s),

    Now, when we teach history, the question is- what should be the period from it is to be taught. It is well-known that our nation has its history traceable to many thousand years back- running to many thousand years before the current Christian Era.

    However in our education system history of just a few hundred years back only is taught. Even in it also the more focus is given to the period when the country was attacked and occupied by foreign invaders who created a history of destruction and devastation. However most of these destruction and devastations were whitewashed. or hidden. Though even during that period there were any number of local Kings and Emperors and events which had positive and valiant chronicles; unfortunately all these were all ignored and only the events of Delhi and nearby places are taught and given importance and stress.. India had been ruled by excellent Kings and Emperors who did a lot of welfare and progressive work with far reaching vision. There are still thousands of standing monuments as proof for these. While we are taught and spoon fed about Macaulay, Lord Wellesly or Mountbatten or Akbar and Shajahan, we are not taught in the same focus about the regional kingdoms and rulers or even the large empires before, during and after the Mughal period.
    All these were hidden and never allowed to be taught and known to the students. History taught in India is more focused to Mughal period and British period and that too with a bias for making them kind and just whereas actually they were cruel, brutal and unjust.

    After 1947 when the Nehruvian and Left historians removed all those real history taught in the syllabus and brought forward biased and one-sided short period history to spoon-feed and take away the historic pride of Indians. Nehru and Congress had some vested interest to perpetrate only one sided history thus making Indians feel bad about their heritage and self respect. Though many knowledgeable people opposed that he newly obtained majority and support during the Independence sentiment helped Nehru and his left historians to bulldoze what they wanted.
    Why history only? Even geography we are taught about other geographies more than our Indian and regional geography. So much s that it is only in recent few years after the internet that many educated people in our country know where Manipur and Dispur are or what language is spoken in Kerala, or what is the difference between Bengali and Gujarati language.

    However in the present day of technology and fast communications, people are aware what real history is, and they want it to be taught as factful and truthful instead of whitewashing the cruel foreign attacker rulers. It is he responsibility of the present government to take steps to teach actual history. And that history is to be since many thousands of years and the Mughal-British history is to be given just a mention in its real sense. That is what is being done now, gradually and it is right too.

  • #772326

    Points:4
    In #772291, the respected member has brought popular Akbar-Birbal stories for discussion. Most probably, she wanted to submit these stories as proof of astuteness of Akbar or Hindu-Muslim relationship during Mughal period.

    I am speechless! Didn't the member know that all the popular Akbar-Birbal stories are fake? Yes, you have been fed lies.

    We have excellent historical records from the period of Akbar. We can check Akbarnama and Ain-I-Akbari as official court histories of Akbar. The works of Badayuni and Sirhindi were contemporary narratives which were not very favourable towards Akbar. Besides, we have official 'firmans', regional histories, Jain narratives, Vanshavalis and inscriptions from all over India.

    None of these sources tells us a single story of Akbar and Birbal.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772327

    Points:5
    It's funny to compare Mathematics and English grammar with History.
    Mathematics and English has some formation that continue till upper class, one cannot change the basic of these subjects. Wherein, History specially Indian history has always bring controversy the way it is been taught. It is clearly shows that there were some agendas to full fill.

    It is not that only Mughals has glorious history others kingdom too have but how much we know about them?
    As I said in earlier post in our History where Akbar and Mughals has 3 or 4 pages in details, Maharana pratap details were done in half page why? Are Rajput kingdom has no glorious history? But unfortunately such history has not given that much space in our school book to give preference to so called glorious Mughals.

    While there is no concrete proof of some incident in history yet it is been credited to Mughals. Recently Rajasthan which is a congress ruling state change their syllabus of Haldighati war between Akbar and Maharana pratap. Earlier it said that Akbar won the war of Haldighati but now after changing it is been taught that Maharana pratap had won the war. To change this history they have some sound arguments and research. Now, how can we say that the history we have taught were correct?

    Indian history is not only about mughals people should understand it before jumping into any conclusions.

  • #772328

    Points:3
    Yesterday, some marxist historians who themselves were responsible for teaching incorrect/distorted history to Indian students generations after generation, issued a statement against deletion of some chapters of the history books.
    These so-called historians don't understand that with the spread of internet and communication facilities, they no longer get any importance from educated people. People themselves can study history from various sources (I am not talking about Whatsapp).
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772329

      

    Points:3
    Partha (as usual) has connected two different points (learning about admin. acumen with reading charming and truly wonderful stories) and merged them into one.

    As for the analogy, I cannot help it if people do not understand what I am trying to say about reinforced learning.

    Anyway, I rest my case because there is no point in discussing further with people who pretend they are not aware of the real and very obvious reasons why this and other actions are being taken time and again.
    When you make a commitment, you create hope. When you keep a commitment you create trust! ~ John C. Maxwell

  • #772330

    Points:2
    Indian students study Mughals in Seventh, Eights, Ninth, Tenth and then again in Graduation and Post-Graduation. If deletion of Mughals in Eleventh and Twelfth and studying other more illustrious Indian empires and kings causes harm to our knowledge base, we (our students) are ready to accept this.
    Fallacious arguments won't do anymore.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #772331

    Points:1
    Exactly!! There is no point to discuss if we can not see our history from a history point of view but limited to only a particular kingdom.

    And I am surprised that why the title thread is not been edited. The mughal chapter is not completely removed as it is said in the main author thread itself.

  • #772357

    Points:4
    1. Kodavas (Koduas), despite being outnumbered 1:3, defeated Tipu Sultan repeatedly (31 times?). That's exactly why Kodavas are not in our History books.

    2. Ahom kings defended Assam by defeating Mughals several times (17 times?). That's exactly why Ahoms are not in our History books.

    I read about Kodavas led by Devappa, Lachit Borphukan, Atan Burgohain and Battle of Saraighat only seven years ago. I have been forced to study the tyrant Tipu and the tyrant Aurangzeb since I was in Third standard.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali


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