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#772801
There could be several reasons why people may not show interest in a website like India Study Channel, even if they are paying their contributors. Some possible reasons could be what I observed are:
Lack of awareness: People may not be aware of the website or the services it offers. Awareness is there but who cares if work under restrictions. It's history which speaks that anything without boundaries grows rapidly. In case of ISC it;s different. It cant take any negative aspect.
Lack of trust: People may not trust the quality or authenticity of the content on the website, especially if they are paying for it. Another reason migh be ISC is completely engaged in educational posts and posting only specific topics are allowed. No general comments, no cross breeding in articles/posts, no great user interface and we have to begin the article with personalized lines only. All these make user away from ISC.
Competition: There may be other similar websites that offer better services or have a stronger reputation, which may attract more users. What user want is simple and easy going space where they can discuss freely.
User experience: The website may have a poor user interface or navigation, which may discourage users from using it. In case of ISC it is more feasible but it may be due to number of restrictions on ISC. The simple rule in ISC is users getting paid hence posting under strict guidelines whether user interested or not.
Lack of engagement: The website may not have an active community or engaging content, which may not attract users. Every now and then we can see the new threads coming in different sections and after few posts it is getting closed. Users are instructed not to open OLD threads, this leads lowering the interest. Old threads might be interesting but resistricted. New threads are rarely getting approcals. Article's are rejcteded, deleted and so many conditions. These migh the reasons.
It's important to identify the specific reasons why users may not be showing interest in the website and work on addressing those issues to improve its popularity and user engagement. I am not sure whether this post will be visible to reader. Possibly it will be rejected/deleted.
Hence, it would be the live proof if done so!
Learn one more language and you will feed your brain the top nutrition!
- Geeta
#772804
You have raised certain valid points and covered the issue in detail. In my opinion the only reason why people are not able to put their contributions here in a sustained way is that if one wants to earn some money every month then one will have to spare 2 to 3 hours daily and that is not feasible for everyone.
In other places we are free to contribute and even if we do not contribute there, it does not matter. There is no compulsion of any sort.
Here in ISC we are contributing with some objective in our minds.
Knowledge is power.
In other places we are free to contribute and even if we do not contribute there, it does not matter. There is no compulsion of any sort.
Here in ISC we are contributing with some objective in our minds.
Knowledge is power.
#772806
Umesh Sir made a valid point about the importance of time. I am adding on priorities too. It is true that one must have a genuine interest in blogging and participating in forums to sustain their engagement on websites like ISC. In my case, I recently re-joined ISC after almost a decade due to my passion for content writing, while my focus during the intervening years was on building my career and pursuing other priorities.
However, I now have more time for myself and can dedicate it to developing my hobbies, including content writing. Any income I may earn from ISC or Google AdSense is merely an added benefit, as my primary motivation is the pursuit of my interests. While ISC is a unique platform, it cannot be compared to social media sites like Instagram or Facebook, which serve different purposes. People may not be as active on ISC due to changing priorities or the discovery of more rewarding or fulfilling hobbies.
The departure of reputed members from ISC is a concern, as they play a vital role in the site's functioning. I was once a reputed member 10 years ago, serving as a WM and editor of some ISC sister sites. However, upon my return, I had to start from scratch. This may be due to the fact that ISC is run and maintained by members like myself, who are promoted to editors and WMs under a single admin. When such members leave due to shifting priorities or other issues, ISC is left in a difficult position. Nonetheless, it is commendable that ISC's admin does not impose any burden on departing members, even if they leave voluntarily.
This is what I can say about your thread Mr. Ajay Gupta.
"Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
Discover the world with wondrous insight."
However, I now have more time for myself and can dedicate it to developing my hobbies, including content writing. Any income I may earn from ISC or Google AdSense is merely an added benefit, as my primary motivation is the pursuit of my interests. While ISC is a unique platform, it cannot be compared to social media sites like Instagram or Facebook, which serve different purposes. People may not be as active on ISC due to changing priorities or the discovery of more rewarding or fulfilling hobbies.
The departure of reputed members from ISC is a concern, as they play a vital role in the site's functioning. I was once a reputed member 10 years ago, serving as a WM and editor of some ISC sister sites. However, upon my return, I had to start from scratch. This may be due to the fact that ISC is run and maintained by members like myself, who are promoted to editors and WMs under a single admin. When such members leave due to shifting priorities or other issues, ISC is left in a difficult position. Nonetheless, it is commendable that ISC's admin does not impose any burden on departing members, even if they leave voluntarily.
This is what I can say about your thread Mr. Ajay Gupta.
"Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
Discover the world with wondrous insight."
#772812
Both the inputs provided by Umesh Sir and Roshan Salim are very valuable providing the details of the temperament of readers while contributing to the different sections of ISC. It is true that there is no compulsion of any sort for the activities of the members to participate in regular basis. They can take up their writing passions any moment they want suiting to them.
In terms of rewards and other incentives, it might not be encouraging to the members doing other activities simultaneously but at least there is one plus point for most of the members of passing their times with some distinguished members of the sites for whom they have developed their intense passion for such respectable members for their creative writing.
At least in this platform I do come across some respectable members like Umesh Sir, Dr. N. V . Srinivasa Rao, Venkiteswaran sir to name a few. Sri Roshan Salim is one of the members having a budding spirit with his exceptional writing abilities. He claims that he is not a new member but was associated with this platform a decade ago but I could see his talents in his writing skills.
Hope this passion would not die down so soon as the relationship with such creative members would further intensify.
In terms of rewards and other incentives, it might not be encouraging to the members doing other activities simultaneously but at least there is one plus point for most of the members of passing their times with some distinguished members of the sites for whom they have developed their intense passion for such respectable members for their creative writing.
At least in this platform I do come across some respectable members like Umesh Sir, Dr. N. V . Srinivasa Rao, Venkiteswaran sir to name a few. Sri Roshan Salim is one of the members having a budding spirit with his exceptional writing abilities. He claims that he is not a new member but was associated with this platform a decade ago but I could see his talents in his writing skills.
Hope this passion would not die down so soon as the relationship with such creative members would further intensify.
#772821
There is a lot of difference between social media and this platform, I feel. This is not a place for anybody and everybody to post whatever they feel like. Social media is for time to pass. Many people who are spending time on social media are not having any scope for earning there. You can post anything you want on social media.
But ISC is a moderated site. An editor will be reviewing the posts and delete spam and if any person is continuously posting spam, the editor may suspend the member from the site. A very close monitoring will be there here which is not there on the other platforms mentioned by the author.
The objective of this site is different from that of social media. Of course, here also people want to make some money. All stake holders will have their share in the income. But to post on this site, one has to do a lot of research and then only authenticated information only should be placed here. The money you are getting and the time you are spending is not in proportion. I think people who wanted to improve their knowledge may only find this site interesting.
drrao
always confident
But ISC is a moderated site. An editor will be reviewing the posts and delete spam and if any person is continuously posting spam, the editor may suspend the member from the site. A very close monitoring will be there here which is not there on the other platforms mentioned by the author.
The objective of this site is different from that of social media. Of course, here also people want to make some money. All stake holders will have their share in the income. But to post on this site, one has to do a lot of research and then only authenticated information only should be placed here. The money you are getting and the time you are spending is not in proportion. I think people who wanted to improve their knowledge may only find this site interesting.
drrao
always confident
#772838
Sheo Shankar Jha Sir, I was pleasantly surprised that you mentioned me in your post (Thread No: 77281230) and appreciate the kind words you had to say about my writing abilities. I am really happy mentioned alongside such esteemed members of this platform like Umesh Sir, Dr N. V. Srinivasa Rao, and Venkiteswaran Sir.
Thank you for taking the time to recognize my work and for being a supportive friend. I look forward to continuing our relationship and further intensifying our creative efforts together.
"Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
Discover the world with wondrous insight."
Thank you for taking the time to recognize my work and for being a supportive friend. I look forward to continuing our relationship and further intensifying our creative efforts together.
"Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
Discover the world with wondrous insight."
#772842
Roshan Salim,
Thank you for your warm response. What I have felt so far that style of representation of a writer speaks of his talent. The way you write up something becomes marvellous due to right selection of words and that differentiates you from the others.
Hope in the upcoming time, many more exciting creations will come up from your end which would make me thrilled. Hope your pleasant journey ahead.
Thank you for your warm response. What I have felt so far that style of representation of a writer speaks of his talent. The way you write up something becomes marvellous due to right selection of words and that differentiates you from the others.
Hope in the upcoming time, many more exciting creations will come up from your end which would make me thrilled. Hope your pleasant journey ahead.
#772876
The author has asked a valid question from his observation.
I think he himself may have found the answer(or at least apart of it) from his own participation or lack of it in ISC. He writes".. I have been observing ISC for the last 10 years.." A period of ten years of his own association here- but the data in his profile page does not show commensurate 'active participation'. The author can give his valid reason for it so that other members can have evaluate whether it is same for them or an additional new reason which they can know..
Geeta, in her post772801, has given the pure academic answers to the question. The thread author and members may apply them to ISC and evaluate how much percentage applies to ISC in each parameter.
Money may not be the main reason for the lack of participation. If that was so sites like Quora, FB would not have become so popular and engaging. ISC.
I feel it is more about the field and gamut of expression. Though ISC had a general theme, ISC was earlier a free expression platform within generally drawn boundaries of decency and civility. Even though it was not a seamless site like FB, it allowed anyone who can comply to normal norms of social decency and social civility to participate and express. Effectively it was a sort of mature site allowing amateur layers to play freely and gradually mature in thoughts and expression. That period of ISC got large membership and visits.
Then ISC slowly started to narrow down its boundaries. From a free expression site it started narrowing down to a specific targeted site. Naturally this put a restriction and impediment to many existing members and contributors who were not specialists, but free playing generalists who were here just for the passion of expression and exchange of thoughts and knowledge.
At the same time ISC did not develop into a really specialist site in the targeted sector, because there are already established players providing more fine tuned contents. What ISC aims(this is my feeling only) to become a more searched site for the targeted sector. With the experience of the team behind ISC, I am sure it will be successful in this.
But during the transit period -transition from a general expression content site to specific target special site- it may find meant erosion in visit, membership, contributions and revenue. But during this period new members who are specialists in the targeted sector will join and by and by ISC an become stable in the new avatar.
'The old order Changeth,' and the new order cometh. That is what life is all about.
"Everything flows. You cannot step into the same river twice". So do not lament or regret. Take it in the normal stride.
I think he himself may have found the answer(or at least apart of it) from his own participation or lack of it in ISC. He writes".. I have been observing ISC for the last 10 years.." A period of ten years of his own association here- but the data in his profile page does not show commensurate 'active participation'. The author can give his valid reason for it so that other members can have evaluate whether it is same for them or an additional new reason which they can know..
Geeta, in her post772801, has given the pure academic answers to the question. The thread author and members may apply them to ISC and evaluate how much percentage applies to ISC in each parameter.
Money may not be the main reason for the lack of participation. If that was so sites like Quora, FB would not have become so popular and engaging. ISC.
I feel it is more about the field and gamut of expression. Though ISC had a general theme, ISC was earlier a free expression platform within generally drawn boundaries of decency and civility. Even though it was not a seamless site like FB, it allowed anyone who can comply to normal norms of social decency and social civility to participate and express. Effectively it was a sort of mature site allowing amateur layers to play freely and gradually mature in thoughts and expression. That period of ISC got large membership and visits.
Then ISC slowly started to narrow down its boundaries. From a free expression site it started narrowing down to a specific targeted site. Naturally this put a restriction and impediment to many existing members and contributors who were not specialists, but free playing generalists who were here just for the passion of expression and exchange of thoughts and knowledge.
At the same time ISC did not develop into a really specialist site in the targeted sector, because there are already established players providing more fine tuned contents. What ISC aims(this is my feeling only) to become a more searched site for the targeted sector. With the experience of the team behind ISC, I am sure it will be successful in this.
But during the transit period -transition from a general expression content site to specific target special site- it may find meant erosion in visit, membership, contributions and revenue. But during this period new members who are specialists in the targeted sector will join and by and by ISC an become stable in the new avatar.
'The old order Changeth,' and the new order cometh. That is what life is all about.
"Everything flows. You cannot step into the same river twice". So do not lament or regret. Take it in the normal stride.
#772888
Amazing replies to this query. I am delighted to read everyone's opinion and views on the thread. Some are extremely accurate in their judgement with justifications.
Learn one more language and you will feed your brain the top nutrition!
- Geeta
Learn one more language and you will feed your brain the top nutrition!
- Geeta
#772889
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I agree with Venkiteswaran that Geetas's list of points is academic in nature and that the narrowing down of niche content could have made a big impact on fewer members continuing.
Effort. That, in my opinion, is the core, since the author is drawing an analogy. Social media sites do not require that much effort, do they? Upload a photo here, submit a comment there, give your two bits worth on a discussion, etc. Here, at ISC, you do need to put in some effort by applying your mind seriously to how you will go about submitting the content. You see, there are rules and regulations focused on quality and when cash credits are the benefits, surely you are definitely going to put in effort. Spontaentiey can, and does continue, in the forum, but in other sections, the hard work should be put in. After all, nobody will put in content that may be deleted. That is why people like the author are mere observers rather than active contributors. They perhaps lack time for that effort or just don't want to bother.
Members who have made superlative contributions earlier with maximum effort and have left for various reasons, such as personal and professional engagements, disagreements with the admin./editors, or just lack of interest, may not return despite our best efforts to draw them back.
When you make a commitment, you create hope. When you keep a commitment you create trust! ~ John C. Maxwell
Effort. That, in my opinion, is the core, since the author is drawing an analogy. Social media sites do not require that much effort, do they? Upload a photo here, submit a comment there, give your two bits worth on a discussion, etc. Here, at ISC, you do need to put in some effort by applying your mind seriously to how you will go about submitting the content. You see, there are rules and regulations focused on quality and when cash credits are the benefits, surely you are definitely going to put in effort. Spontaentiey can, and does continue, in the forum, but in other sections, the hard work should be put in. After all, nobody will put in content that may be deleted. That is why people like the author are mere observers rather than active contributors. They perhaps lack time for that effort or just don't want to bother.
Members who have made superlative contributions earlier with maximum effort and have left for various reasons, such as personal and professional engagements, disagreements with the admin./editors, or just lack of interest, may not return despite our best efforts to draw them back.
When you make a commitment, you create hope. When you keep a commitment you create trust! ~ John C. Maxwell
#772909
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Blogging was very popular a few years ago and blogging/content publishing platforms like ISC were very popular at that time. We even launched about 25 regional websites and each of them was getting several thousand visitors every day.
Over a period of time, thousands of such websites were started. Most of our active contributors started their own blogs to try their luck.
Google, our primary source of revenue, took a stand to encourage small small blogs instead of a few large websites. So, the revenue for ISC declined and the same revenue was split among thousands of small blogs. For example, if ISC was earning 1000 USD in a month, that 1000 USD was split into 1000 different blogs, each one earning an average of 1 USD per month!! This means, none of them will reach the minimum payout level and Google does not have to pay a single penny to anyone. Thus, ISC when ISC loses 1000 USD, Google saves that 1000 USD.
When ISC started losing money, ISC started reducing rewards. This also caused some other contributors to lose money. So, in addition to losing many contributors who started their own blogs, ISC also lost some contributors due to a lack of reward programs.
Another reason for losing many members is, we have a very strict editorial policy. Most other contribution websites like Quora are used by contributors to promote their own businesses. We do not allow any such self-promotions. Many times I have felt that we should allow self-promotions in ISC as long as it does not hurt ISC. I have implemented that policy at least in the new Knowledge Centre section and we may expand this to other sections as well. I need to align our editors' team also on this before I can expand this to all other sections.
Also, we have a strict policy on raising personal opinions and heated arguments. We often delete answers when people post uncomfortable messages in the forum. I personally feel we should be a little more liberal in allowing such arguments which will create enthusiasm in readers as well as interest in the contributors. When strong opinions are deleted without mercy, people tend to move away.
Anyways, we are trying our best to bring back the spirit and revive ISC.
Feel free to give your suggestions. Let us together make ISC a better place for everyone!
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
Over a period of time, thousands of such websites were started. Most of our active contributors started their own blogs to try their luck.
Google, our primary source of revenue, took a stand to encourage small small blogs instead of a few large websites. So, the revenue for ISC declined and the same revenue was split among thousands of small blogs. For example, if ISC was earning 1000 USD in a month, that 1000 USD was split into 1000 different blogs, each one earning an average of 1 USD per month!! This means, none of them will reach the minimum payout level and Google does not have to pay a single penny to anyone. Thus, ISC when ISC loses 1000 USD, Google saves that 1000 USD.
When ISC started losing money, ISC started reducing rewards. This also caused some other contributors to lose money. So, in addition to losing many contributors who started their own blogs, ISC also lost some contributors due to a lack of reward programs.
Another reason for losing many members is, we have a very strict editorial policy. Most other contribution websites like Quora are used by contributors to promote their own businesses. We do not allow any such self-promotions. Many times I have felt that we should allow self-promotions in ISC as long as it does not hurt ISC. I have implemented that policy at least in the new Knowledge Centre section and we may expand this to other sections as well. I need to align our editors' team also on this before I can expand this to all other sections.
Also, we have a strict policy on raising personal opinions and heated arguments. We often delete answers when people post uncomfortable messages in the forum. I personally feel we should be a little more liberal in allowing such arguments which will create enthusiasm in readers as well as interest in the contributors. When strong opinions are deleted without mercy, people tend to move away.
Anyways, we are trying our best to bring back the spirit and revive ISC.
Feel free to give your suggestions. Let us together make ISC a better place for everyone!
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
#772911
I would like to submit my own (to some extent unpalatable) view on this issue.
(a) The first impression of this site is uninviting compared to Facebook (Meta), Twitter and/or Quora. I have no idea about Instagram.
(b) Due to various reasons like excessive monitoring by the editors, abrupt deletion of comments of a particular member during debates, abrupt locking of some threads, etc. are not conducive to the growth of this site.
(c) The site is always boring due to its content. Now, it is trying to become more boring while it confines itself to education-related issues.
(d) Further, even within this topic (education), most of the time, proper discussion does not take place or proper reply to a question is not available. Many a times, third-grade private universities and educational institutions are promoted (though I do understand the commercial compulsion).
(e) Finally (for the time being), the ISC management must try to understand that in many cases (of members), financial incentive is absolutely not an issue. Serious people didn't, don't and won't join ISC for financial benefits only.
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
(a) The first impression of this site is uninviting compared to Facebook (Meta), Twitter and/or Quora. I have no idea about Instagram.
(b) Due to various reasons like excessive monitoring by the editors, abrupt deletion of comments of a particular member during debates, abrupt locking of some threads, etc. are not conducive to the growth of this site.
(c) The site is always boring due to its content. Now, it is trying to become more boring while it confines itself to education-related issues.
(d) Further, even within this topic (education), most of the time, proper discussion does not take place or proper reply to a question is not available. Many a times, third-grade private universities and educational institutions are promoted (though I do understand the commercial compulsion).
(e) Finally (for the time being), the ISC management must try to understand that in many cases (of members), financial incentive is absolutely not an issue. Serious people didn't, don't and won't join ISC for financial benefits only.
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
#772916
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Partha, I am amused by your statement that this site is boring. Could you please elaborate as to what made you stick here for so long then? Having experience in other sites like Quora etc, please feel free to put up suggestions for improvement. Moderation of contents is still on and will continue till the webmaster says it is no longer required and when that occurs, we, the editors, will no longer be required.
'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
-Aristotle
'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
-Aristotle
#772922
Another three reasons why this site has been losing popularity:
(a) The html commands are cumbersome.
(b) This website discourages external links. Without references (external links), how can an article be considered reliable?
(c) Uploading of photos is discouraged
So far as response of Shri Saji Ganesh (#772916) is concerned, I am in no mood to start an argument with hm because I am now involved in an interesting discussion on 'The Kerala Story' elsewhere. But if Shri Ganesh, as a part of management of ISC, is not ready to accept the flaws of this site, he will never be able to improve the site.
With respect to all.
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
(a) The html commands are cumbersome.
(b) This website discourages external links. Without references (external links), how can an article be considered reliable?
(c) Uploading of photos is discouraged
So far as response of Shri Saji Ganesh (#772916) is concerned, I am in no mood to start an argument with hm because I am now involved in an interesting discussion on 'The Kerala Story' elsewhere. But if Shri Ganesh, as a part of management of ISC, is not ready to accept the flaws of this site, he will never be able to improve the site.
With respect to all.
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
#772927
Web Master Tony's post 772909 is quite sensible and logical in this context. His reasoning also holds god, but that is definitely not all.
Anyway all ventures may need periodical evaluation and more fine tuning by shedding or adding. ISC also undergoes that. Le us go through it and do our mite with sincerity and well intent. Everything needs some ime to settle after the dust and mud rising.
Anyway all ventures may need periodical evaluation and more fine tuning by shedding or adding. ISC also undergoes that. Le us go through it and do our mite with sincerity and well intent. Everything needs some ime to settle after the dust and mud rising.
#772929
So many opinons in far and against. I like to know, what if a separate sections are alloted to post freely on ISC? Ofcourse related to education only where there will be no restrictions, no moderation. Will that affect on whole website?
Learn one more language and you will feed your brain the top nutrition!
- Geeta
Learn one more language and you will feed your brain the top nutrition!
- Geeta
#772931
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Geeta, the problem here is, if we allow anything, then ISC may get some traffic but we do not make any revenue out of it. Over a period of time, the revenue from AdSense has become negligible and does not even help us to meet our running epenses.
So we have to explore other opportunities. The opportunity we have identified is, classify our website as an education/admission portal and earn revenue from admission lead selling. We will get visitors to the site who are looking for Admissions to various courses in India and Abroad. If we allow any random topics, we may not get recognised as education portal like Shiksha, Career 360 etc. So we need to limit such topics.
As many people including Partha said, I understand that over-moderation is probably discouraging many people. I am in favour of "free speech" in the forums to an extent.
I assure you that we will go the "delete" step only when absolutely necessary. In general, we will "Answer" the comments instead of "Deleting" it.
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
So we have to explore other opportunities. The opportunity we have identified is, classify our website as an education/admission portal and earn revenue from admission lead selling. We will get visitors to the site who are looking for Admissions to various courses in India and Abroad. If we allow any random topics, we may not get recognised as education portal like Shiksha, Career 360 etc. So we need to limit such topics.
As many people including Partha said, I understand that over-moderation is probably discouraging many people. I am in favour of "free speech" in the forums to an extent.
I assure you that we will go the "delete" step only when absolutely necessary. In general, we will "Answer" the comments instead of "Deleting" it.
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
#772934
Thank you Tony Sir for your reply.
It's understood now why we should not have such sections.
Secondly it's good to hear from your last few lines that we will get the written comments instead of direct deletion. At least authors would come to know where to improve. From my past few posts I am getting the comments by editors, slowly I am understanding what I am suppose to rectify on ISC.
Learn one more language and you will feed your brain the top nutrition!
- Geeta
It's understood now why we should not have such sections.
Secondly it's good to hear from your last few lines that we will get the written comments instead of direct deletion. At least authors would come to know where to improve. From my past few posts I am getting the comments by editors, slowly I am understanding what I am suppose to rectify on ISC.
Learn one more language and you will feed your brain the top nutrition!
- Geeta
#772935
Thanks everyone for your responses. I hope ISC will continue to grow in future with valuable contributions from the members. May be people are more interested in videos these days which is the reason blogging websites are losing traffic even after having quality content. Youtube is getting a lot of traffic these days as people are more interested in watching videos than reading. It's is disheartening to see useless social media platforms getting so much traffic and informative websites like ISC not able to survive in this digital era.
Humble yourself or life will do it for you!
Humble yourself or life will do it for you!
#772938
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Tony sir, Article 19 (a) of the Indian Constitution does give us freedom of speech and expression but one should be aware of the limitations too. Can we say anything and everything? Just criticize our PM or Amit Shah now and you may get engaged by ED. Please make your point clear so that our members (including Partha) are not misguided. Please also refer Art 25 of the Indian Constitution.
Sir, as I said, we will stop editing and correcting if you wish so.
'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
-Aristotle
Sir, as I said, we will stop editing and correcting if you wish so.
'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
-Aristotle
#772939
I think converting ISC to a complete educational website will definitely attract students and job seekers. Till now, ISC is still looking as if it is a general website. Let the moderation continue for some time until the website looks like an educational website. Allow only educational content and nothing else. Discussing politics will generally create bias and differences in opinion. Do not allow any political or general content to be discussed here.
Over a period of time, we (elders) may be irrelevant here. But ISC will definitely attract new young blood if it is converted into a purely educational website. If the ISC brand is completely established as an educational website, moderation can be lifted.
Over a period of time, we (elders) may be irrelevant here. But ISC will definitely attract new young blood if it is converted into a purely educational website. If the ISC brand is completely established as an educational website, moderation can be lifted.
#772940
Some more suggestions:
1) If the legacy ISC brand is a hindrance in establishing it as an educational website, rebranding it with a new short domain name may work. Old domain name can be redirected to the new domain name.
2) ISC can aggressively be promoted through social media marketing, email marketing, content marketing, etc. Since the main revenue channel will not be Adsense, the fear of Adsense blocking due to heavy social media traffic will not be there.
3) ISC can hire 2-3 professional growth hackers and social media marketeers for the above purpose.
1) If the legacy ISC brand is a hindrance in establishing it as an educational website, rebranding it with a new short domain name may work. Old domain name can be redirected to the new domain name.
2) ISC can aggressively be promoted through social media marketing, email marketing, content marketing, etc. Since the main revenue channel will not be Adsense, the fear of Adsense blocking due to heavy social media traffic will not be there.
3) ISC can hire 2-3 professional growth hackers and social media marketeers for the above purpose.
#772982
I fully agree with the Lead Editor Saji Ganesh's statement that Article 19 of the Indian Constitution has given us the freedom to express whatever we like. Shall we do it in reality? Not at all. Because we are more civilized and know how to speak or comment and how to behave in certain circumstances. The same applies when we are through any platform, whether it may be FB/Quora/Instagram/Twitter or ISC.
I feel ISC is not an FB or a Twitter and it is unique highlighting "learn while earn and earn while learn." Good things always reach the mass slowly and steadily. If Tony sir adds a "like/unlike" feature as in FB then it would be more interesting for those who don't want to spend much time but just click the like button or any emoji of their choice. People who want to drag popularity through entertainment may spend more time on such social media.
Moreover, nowadays young minds are more easily adapted to such entertainment-based mobile technology rather than sharing knowledge through any other gadget.
This is high time that ISC Admin needs to investigate strategies to attract young minds to get through the ISC since it is being into the transformation status to a complete education portal and invariably a youth-based platform. I would suggest initiating schemes like conducting reward programs, contests/PowerPoint presentations/videos on YouTube exclusively for ISC, and free mock tests for competitive examinations. However, I am not aware of technical issues/pros and cons involving these strategies. Tony sir as a tech person would be able to analyse, I feel.
I feel ISC is not an FB or a Twitter and it is unique highlighting "learn while earn and earn while learn." Good things always reach the mass slowly and steadily. If Tony sir adds a "like/unlike" feature as in FB then it would be more interesting for those who don't want to spend much time but just click the like button or any emoji of their choice. People who want to drag popularity through entertainment may spend more time on such social media.
Moreover, nowadays young minds are more easily adapted to such entertainment-based mobile technology rather than sharing knowledge through any other gadget.
This is high time that ISC Admin needs to investigate strategies to attract young minds to get through the ISC since it is being into the transformation status to a complete education portal and invariably a youth-based platform. I would suggest initiating schemes like conducting reward programs, contests/PowerPoint presentations/videos on YouTube exclusively for ISC, and free mock tests for competitive examinations. However, I am not aware of technical issues/pros and cons involving these strategies. Tony sir as a tech person would be able to analyse, I feel.
#772986
We must appreciate the efforts of ISC management that it is trying its best to update the existing platforms in such way that the student- communities are greatly benefited with the articles, informations and other educational contents.
So far, ISC team has taken care of youngsters with the sufficient display of vacancies of different natures helping them to seek their jobs according to their qualifications and experience. It is definitely a great way of attracting the student communities.
To go ahead with more valuable inputs for their success in the different streams, there should be sufficient inclusions of tips how they can show their outstanding performance in the subject concerned. We are sure that in the time ahead, the team would definitely encourage the members to contribute to their bests for the benefits of the youngsters as a whole.
So far, ISC team has taken care of youngsters with the sufficient display of vacancies of different natures helping them to seek their jobs according to their qualifications and experience. It is definitely a great way of attracting the student communities.
To go ahead with more valuable inputs for their success in the different streams, there should be sufficient inclusions of tips how they can show their outstanding performance in the subject concerned. We are sure that in the time ahead, the team would definitely encourage the members to contribute to their bests for the benefits of the youngsters as a whole.
#772987
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Saji,
My message was loud and clear through the below statements I made earlier:
"As many people including Partha said, I understand that over-moderation is probably discouraging many people. I am in favour of "free speech" in the forums to an extent.
I assure you that we will go the "delete" step only when absolutely necessary. In general, we will "Answer" the comments instead of "Deleting" it."
I am expecting that the editors will continue the moderation in alignment with my above statements.
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
My message was loud and clear through the below statements I made earlier:
"As many people including Partha said, I understand that over-moderation is probably discouraging many people. I am in favour of "free speech" in the forums to an extent.
I assure you that we will go the "delete" step only when absolutely necessary. In general, we will "Answer" the comments instead of "Deleting" it."
I am expecting that the editors will continue the moderation in alignment with my above statements.
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
#772990
Very strong brainstorming on this topic!
Editors and Webmasters are right. At some point of time authors need to understand the importance as well as implications of free writeups. The halt on unnecessary writeups are already going on. As Tony sir already mentioned that authors will get an initial hint to modify their posts/articles/opinion before deletion. In such case if author want to edit and report will be fine, I think so.
Ultimately our aim to take ISC on another level of educational site. Something we have to be strong and somewhere we have to compensate in terms of restrictions.
Creating other section with free speech is truly not necessary for this scenario. But also recommend to
have a user-friendly space where new members would be given preference to speak on certain educational topics, especially students. As new age learners are keener to express their views in a short line or single sentences in a chat format along with relevant video/pictures under moderate vigilance.
Also, if we launch a section/new website for the regional languages if possible.
Arvind
"Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today." - Malcolm X
Editors and Webmasters are right. At some point of time authors need to understand the importance as well as implications of free writeups. The halt on unnecessary writeups are already going on. As Tony sir already mentioned that authors will get an initial hint to modify their posts/articles/opinion before deletion. In such case if author want to edit and report will be fine, I think so.
Ultimately our aim to take ISC on another level of educational site. Something we have to be strong and somewhere we have to compensate in terms of restrictions.
Creating other section with free speech is truly not necessary for this scenario. But also recommend to
have a user-friendly space where new members would be given preference to speak on certain educational topics, especially students. As new age learners are keener to express their views in a short line or single sentences in a chat format along with relevant video/pictures under moderate vigilance.
Also, if we launch a section/new website for the regional languages if possible.
Arvind
"Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today." - Malcolm X
#772991
When Tony sir says we will go to the "delete" step only when absolutely necessary, I am still not able to understand how my comment at #772940 got deleted in which only suggestions for improvement of ISC were given in my response.
#772999
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Bhuvan, I am not sure how your message was deleted. Looks like an accidental deletion. I have restored it now.
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
#773000
Thank you Tony sir for restoring my response.
#773002
I am also very impressed by the prompt decision of the Webmaster Mr. Tony. The previously deleted (now restored) response of Mr. Bhuvan contains some very useful suggestions to revive this site.
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
#773004
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Partha,
Even though the said response was deleted accidentally or automatically by the system, we like to reiterate that we are no longer in favor of deleting posts just because there is a difference of opinion. However, please note that this exception is not applicable to spam, promotions, illegal content, violent content etc.
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
Even though the said response was deleted accidentally or automatically by the system, we like to reiterate that we are no longer in favor of deleting posts just because there is a difference of opinion. However, please note that this exception is not applicable to spam, promotions, illegal content, violent content etc.
regards,
Tony John
Webmaster - IndiaStudyChannel.com
#773005
I am very happy with this decision. This will definitely be conducive to healthy debates. Further, deletion of spam, promotions, illegal content, violent content., sexual content, etc. is also welcomed by almost all members.
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
Kabhi un mad-bhari ankhon se piya tha ek jaam, aajtak hosh nehi, hosh nehi, hosh nehi—Jigar Moradabadi ("Once I drank a cup from those drunken eyes; till now I haven't regained my senses!")
#773018
All is well that ends well!!
#773022
Great to witness the whole discussions in this forum thread turning into timely debates with strong statements. Hope everything happened here is for a change and for long term growth of ISC. Let us reinstate our focus on site specific goals, engage in constructive dialogues with civility & mutual respect. Let us harness this momentum to work for the betterment of ISC as a knowledge sharing educational platform.
"Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
Discover the world with wondrous insight."
"Unlock the treasure trove of knowledge's delight,
Discover the world with wondrous insight."
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