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    Points:30 (₹ 30)

    Active GD: Pros and Cons of including Artificial Intelligence and Coding in CBSE syllabus

    The CBSE board has announced the introduction of teaching AI (Artificial Intelligence), Coding, financial literacy, and other skills at the school level from Class 6 to Class 8. (AI was included by CBSE for the 8th class onward a few years ago). It has given a list of about 33 new subjects to be taught. This is a sequence to the NEP (National Educational Policy) envisaging the integration of vocational studies into academic mainstream curriculum studies.

    The subjects are only optional and will not entail additional expenses or recruitment of teachers. Schools are given the freedom of formulating the skill modules. The assessment will be internal and is now meant to promote interest in the subjects.

    What can the be the pros and cons of this?

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    Should AI and Coding be part of the school syllabus?
    Should these subjects be included at the middle school level?
    Will these subjects really be beneficial for students?
    The assessment of these subjects and any other allied aspects.

    Keep in mind that the debate should focus only on AI and Coding and not the other new subjects that could possibly be included.

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  • #772983

    Points:4
    In my opinion, this is a very good step. It is high time that our education system should match with various skills being used in business and industry. This is very essential so that the students are also in tune with what is happening around them. The whole world today is moving towards the AI model in various activities and it is imperative that students must get exposure to all the related learnings and skills well ahead of time. There will be some teething troubles as some teachers will find difficulty in teaching these new topics but with proper refresher courses for them, this problem can be mitigated.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #773014

    Points:10 (₹ 10)
    Introducing artificial intelligence, financial literacy, and coding in the 8th class curriculum can have both advantages and disadvantages. Here are some pros and cons to consider:

    Pros:
    Career readiness: Students will be better prepared for the future job market as they will have a foundational knowledge of skills that are increasingly important in various fields, including business, healthcare, and finance.
    Critical thinking skills: AI, financial literacy, and coding require critical thinking skills, logical reasoning, and problem-solving skills. Students will develop these skills as they learn and practice these topics.
    Technological literacy: Students will gain a deeper understanding of technology and be more confident in using it in their everyday lives.
    Improved academic performance: Studies have shown that students who are exposed to technology education tend to have better academic performance in other subjects as well.

    Cons:
    Age-appropriateness: The concepts of artificial intelligence and financial literacy may be too complex for some 8th-grade students to understand, which may lead to confusion or disinterest.
    Teacher training: Teachers may not have the necessary training and experience to teach these topics effectively, which could lead to an ineffective curriculum.
    Overemphasis on technology: The curriculum may focus too heavily on technology education, neglecting other important subjects like social studies, language arts, and physical education.
    Accessibility: Some schools may not have the resources, such as technology or trained teachers, to teach these subjects effectively.

    In conclusion, introducing artificial intelligence, financial literacy, and coding in 8th-class curricula can have numerous benefits for students, including career readiness, critical thinking skills, and technological literacy. However, it is important to consider the age-appropriateness of the curriculum, teacher training, and accessibility to ensure that all students can benefit from this type of education.

  • #773029

    Points:3
    These types of professional courses are essential for the students for developing different skills essential to make a good career. New Education Policy also directs us to start these types of courses from standard six for the betterment of the students.

    We must also remember, that Warren Buffett has compared AI with Atom Bomb. So, we should use it wisely otherwise it will destroy the harmony of the world.
    Honesty is the best policy.

  • #773037

    Points:5
    A student should know how beneficially the subject can be used for personal development. But an 8th-class student may not be having such a maturity to understand where to apply skills and where not to use them.
    AI is good but student depends more on this AI for their studies, which may give adverse effects on the students. So just introducing AI and coding may be ok but giving more importance to these subjects will be a problem. I feel. Detailed learning can be initiated in the 11th or 12th class as these students may have a better maturity than 8th-class students.
    Another issue is the professional teachers in this line also are not available. Teaching an 8th-class student is a little more difficult than an 11th-class student. That may be also an issue if this subject is to be dealt with in the lower classes itself.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773038

    Points:8
    CBSE has taken the right step to update the knowledge of the students in the direction of Artificial Intelligence so that they can know its beneficial effects in today's world. Apart from it, the Board claims that it is not a compulsory step to opt for this but the same can be taken up as per their inclinations.

    Since this new module has got its immense applications in the sphere of accounts, coding and computations etc but the ways how the teachers would be handling the same would be the major determinant of the proficiency of the pupils in this area. Since this is a new concept and hence teaches are to be tuned accordingly with the provisions of the latest inputs in this domain.

    The teachers of secondary schools should not keep their pupils overstressed with this subject at the cost of ruining their time for their basic subjects such as Social Science, Mathematics, English, Social Studies etc since in the later stages of their lives their knowledge in such subjects cannot be compensated.

    I think the classes of eleven onwards could be more beneficial to them due to their development of critical thinking powers which could help them for a deeper understanding of this subject of AI.

  • #773051

    Points:10 (₹ 10)
    There is always a need to align and update the education system and syllabus with the advancement of technology and social changes in life to keep the students prepared for their post-student careers and life. In that regard, I can accept the addition of new subjects in the educational syllabus in tune as adaptable and comprehensible for the age and class.

    But learning AI even from the lower class, I am afraid, of what will be the consequences. especially when there are varying opinions about Chat GPT etc. The question is when even the lower-class students start learning about Artificial intelligence will their original intelligence be used at all? What can be the ultimate consequences? Can it result in a lack of growth of human faculties? We may have to face and answer many questions similar to those that cropped up during the early times of research on test tube babies and asexual reproduction.

  • #773683

      

    Points:2
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  • #773688

    Points:5
    This is a very good step taken by CBSE to introduce Artificial Intelligence and coding in the curriculum from class-6 onwards. As you said it has already been there in class-8 onwards and now it will be introduced from class -6 onward really a great initiative. With the advancement of technology, it indeed needs to introduce from a very young age to stand Indian students on a global platform. But seems it won't be as easy as it looks to implement entirely. While Implementing and executing it could have pros and cons which Central Board need to take into consideration.
    Including AI and coding, helps students to be ready for the future job market because it makes them technologically literate and can easily adapt to the technology. Helps enhance logical thinking, problem-solving, and analytical skills. The course makes them creative and innovative, so they can emerge with different ideas. Helps to open the door for career opportunities.
    The course not only has advantages, but it also has disadvantages. The schools may have challenges to get teachers, and the schools could have to face problems finding well-trained teachers in this field, While introducing AI and coding in the curriculum, it needs adequate infrastructure and resources like computers, software, internet connection etc, all schools may not have all these resources or have barriers to access. Already students have a heavy load in the curriculum and this could lead to an overload.

    However, including AI and coding in the curriculum is very essential to compare the world in the field of technology, skill development and future employability. So despite its disadvantages, we should have to move towards successful implementation.

  • #773691

    Points:5 (₹ 3)
    Education is a bridge for getting a job and making a career. It is imperative that more and more the education is skill-oriented and industry-friendly, more it will result in creating a conducive situation for the students to recognise the various channels in the industry for securing a job where they will find comfortable to work in.

    Today we have three major types of educational channels through which a student can acquire knowledge and then search employment. These channels are technical certifications and diplomas, pure academic courses in science and humanities, and technical degrees like engineering, medical etc. These different modes have their own follow up for hunting a job and searching for job opportunities in the present competitive environment.

    It is not possible to amalgamate all the above in one composite stream as that would be a too heavy a course to pursue by the student but some elements of skill and industry-related elements can always be incorporated in any stream.
    So introducing AI and coding as an optional feature in lower classes is a welcome measure and would open up more possibilities of including such skill elements in our education system in the early phase of the life of a student.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #773694

    Points:10 (₹ 10)
    At the outset, I must state that I broadly support NEP-2020 which has proposed revolutionary changes to the overall approach towards education.

    Now, let us come to specifics. CBSE, in accordance with NEP-2020, has announced the introduction of AI, Coding, Financial Literacy and other subjects. These subjects are optional in nature and no new recruitment will be made to teach these subjects to the students of Std. VI to Std. VIII.

    To discuss the issue, let me first recall the best-ever writing on education which I have studied. More than 100 years before, Rabindranath Tagore wrote a short story titled 'Tota-Kahini' (Story of a Parrot). I request all participants to read this story (the translation is available in English). The story vividly describes how the scholars of a king captured a happy-go-lucky small parrot, fed it with books and more books instead of its natural food. Ultimately, the unfortunate parrot died and the scholars declared that its education was complete. The story is more relevant today, thanks to the scholars and also parents of young children.

    Now, I want to ask one or two simple questions. Firstly, CBSE has introduced AI, Coding, Financial Literacy and other subjects in Std. VI. What are those 'other subjects'? Do we, scholars and guardians, give any importance to those other subjects? Do we give equal stress on other subjects like poetry-writing, study of architecture of different era or even different languages?

    The answer is a clear NO. Not only the scholars but also the guardians of young children don't give any importance to those 'other subjects'. We don't ask our children whether they are interested to learn poetry-writing or any different language. We force them to join classes in AI or Coding, thinking that studying these subjects will make them successful in the future. We calculate success in a materialistic way.

    And, in this manner, we kill the intellect of the small, happy parrot in our residence with books and more books on those subjects in which he/she may have no interest at all.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #773695

    Points:4
    I completely oppose introducing AI and coding at the school level (6-8th standard). I could have somewhat agreed if it were introduced at class 9th or more and not before class 9th. The age of children in 6th-8th standard is not that much matured to understand those subjects.

    In AI and coding, a lot of algebra and higher mathematics is involved. A student cannot have a good hold of algebra until he reaches 8th standard. So, how can he understand complex subjects without having the basic knowledge of essential subjects?

  • #773696

    Points:5
    Let us understand the nature and temperament of students studying in class six or seven. From their own appearance, nothing concretely can be predicted for their future..One day I asked a chid, in the lighter vain, living next to my residence and currently studying in class six in St.Xavier School in Bokaro Steel regarding his ultimate ambitions. He looked at me innocently and advised me to meet his father regarding the ultimate profession where his father could match for him. I could neither cry or laugh.
    This is one of examples of innocence of the kids of such classes studying in schools irrespective of places. They are to be treated affectionately by their parents at home guiding them at all the stages which could be the best ways of sorting out issues. The teachers in the schools teach them grammar, poetry, essays in schools and they ultimately are engrossed in the languages- both English and their local languages. They learn Mathematics and Science and ultimately develop intense passion as a result of nice presentation of the teachers. Their knowledge passion for Science and Mathematics grew deeper and is proportional to inclinations of teachers and their encouragement.
    In nut shell, this is not the right age for them to be taught regarding the benefits of AI, Financial Planning, Coding, Machine Learning etc. if there is the inclusion of such subjects at this nascent stage, they might become directionless due to over pressure of the class curriculum.
    At this stage, mental nourishment is essential providing them dose of stories of the prominent writers which could excite them and help them to grow in the healthy atmosphere. Teaching Mathematics where there is no restriction from the side of the teachers for further queries would boost their confidence levels ultimately. Their education should be such that it could create stimulation in their learning process.

  • #773698

    Points:5
    Some parents feel great when their children operate a mobile or computer with ease. They boast about the skills of their children in front of others. What they are forgetting here is that their children are just users of the devices that someone has developed. We cannot call these children experts. We call those people as experts (or developers) who have developed that device (either software or hardware). So, developing a device requires a lot of skills. So, a user and a developer are completely different persons.

    CBSE board is introducing the subjects of AI and coding to make the children to become experts not to become users. Is it possible to make a child an expert, who even does not know the difference between a user and a developer?

    Doesn't most of us feel blank when we talk about the development of AI even if we know coding in some or other languages? If the elders having some knowledge in one or more coding languages feel so much blank, we can imagine the situation of children in the 6-8th standard.

  • #773699

    Points:5
    Artificial Intelligence and Mathematics are the two faces of the same coin. So to flourish in the area of Artificial Intelligence, the aspirants need to study Mathematics thoroughly so that they can attain a high level of proficiency in the areas of Linear Algebra, Calculus and Probability and so on. At the stage of class six or seven, the pupils would not be comfortable with these tools and forcing them to practice such methods would make them more confused and disinterested in learning further in the essential mathematical models.
    To encourage them to become real experts in the direction of Artificial Intelligence, we need to tutor them in the different phases which should start preferably from class eleven and onwards when their thinking abilities are at the peak levels of understanding the different modules like Linear Algebra, Calculus, Probability, Statistics, Advanced Logistics Regression, Vectors, Matrices, Sets and Sequences etc.
    I am not discouraging CBSE Board to start this course but it should be extended by at least five years so that by the time they are promoted to class eleven, they can gear up themselves in understanding the essential basics of the course of Artificial Intelligence.
    Moreover, there are interconnected models and tools like Logic, Frames, Rules and Nets which would form the invertible and inescapable components while practising in the domain of Artificial Intelligence.
    Hence the right selection of timing would be more vital and appropriate. The CBSE Board need to differ the timing by at least five years to make the students proficient in the area of AI.

  • #773701

    Points:5
    The task of the school management in shaping the careers of the kids is more challenging and calls for their dedicated efforts in grooming their talents in the respective areas be it humanities, commerce or science stream.
    While talking in context of achieving the correct goal of Artificial Intelligence experts, the management should not even overlook the commands of the aspirants in their literature portions- both their local languages and English language. The later part needs to be more sound in terms of writing and spoken modes since these experts need to communicate effectively with their employers, clients and project- managers in course of presentation. Conversation in English should be effective such that there is no scope of ambiguity in both written and spoken languages.
    While Mathematical Portions are equally important to be practiced from class eleven, we cannot compromise with the poor concepts of English at any stage. The school management has to adopt two pronged strategies to tackle both the aspects.
    However, we need to be in a hurry to practice them simultaneously. Let it occur at some time intervals. The task of the management is to encourage, stimulate and strengthen their communication and speaking levels first on sustained basis right from their primary stages to their exits after passing CBSE Board.
    Taking care of their English Proficiency apart from grooming their concepts in Mathematics would ease the process of attainment of the targets of the pupils in realisations of their dreams as AI Experts.

  • #773702

    Points:4
    We used to study only 5-6 subjects until 8th standard. But nowadays children are studying upto 10 subjects (including GK, Drawing, Computers, Vedic mathematics, etc.) or more. This unnecessarily creates pressure on children.

    Even though CBSE board is saying that AI and Coding subjects are only optional, some schools may make them compulsory and force the children to learn the subjects. This will create extra pressure on children and that too make the children learn the subjects, which they cannot even understand at their age. This will make the children byheart the subjects instead of gaining anything concretely.

  • #773706

    Points:5
    The process how AI is taught in a classroom might surprise many of us. Here the main teacher is a robot taking over duties as teachers concentrating on to help automate tedious tasks such as essay grading, identifying and examining the learning patterns of the students. It could be a surprising moment that the robot even helps the students to answer their doubts.
    A recent report released by the Microsoft reveals that AI offers teachers and schools a new way to understand how the students are performing in their classes under the guidance of robots.
    Currently, AI ( also known as Machine Learning) can solve the problems due to its ability to identify the patterns and adapting accordingly. AI can analyse and predict based upon the available information provided to it through external sources. AI tools can identify the progress of the students through the learning analytics.
    The role of the teachers, in that situation, is nothing more than a developer and the entire classroom is supervised by the robot. However, robots are not the answers every time, they need to have human teachers to alleviate their doubts sometimes. In the current time, there is, of course, a shortage of human teachers to guide the students in the crucial moments.

  • #773708

    Points:5
    We all know that for any course there will be a minimum age set by the government to get admitted. What is the reason behind this? Probably, the maturity levels of the children and the capacity of the child to understand the subject may be the reason behind it. So one should think about whether a child in the 6th or 7th class will have that much capacity to understand the subject.
    Mathematics is a very important subject. Before we think of using this mathematical knowledge for application in various applications, the student has strong knowledge of mathematics. A multistoried building will be strong only when the foundation is strong. The same is the case in learning also. One should know the alphabet before learning words and sentences.
    So the basics in mathematics can be taught up to the 10th class and a little introduction about AI and coding can e brought in the 10th class. Then starting from the 11th class I think we can start teaching them AI.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773709

    Points:5
    When I show my laptop to my granddaughter she feels happy in using the same for painting or playing games. When I ask her to type words using the keyboard, she will not show interest and she will start requesting me to allow her to see videos on youtube. For them, a laptop or a computer or a smartphone is a playing tool. But we tell them to use it for learning some subjects. they may not do that. a child will consider these tools as playing tools. Once we give them for learning when somebody is watching them, they may be very sincere, But the moment they get a chance they will switch over to their other uses.
    A student who is in class 7th or 8th will not have a clear vision of what to study and what field is interesting to him and he may look at his parents when somebody asked them which subject is interesting for them as mentioned by Seoshankar Jha. These days parents are crazy. Their children should know everything and learn everything. So some parents may force them to learn these subjects even though they are optional. In such cases, students will get stressed more.
    Before deciding on the syllabus, one should see all these issues also.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773714

    Points:5
    Continuing from my previous response, I would like to state that more 90% of schools (both in urban and rural areas) in India don't have adequate infrastructure to teach Artificial Intelligence or Coding. Further, the instruction is not to employ additional workforce for the purpose of teaching students of Class VI to Class VIII. Therefore, I feel that this is going to be a fruitless exercise which is bound to fail.

    But, the guardians of the hapless students won't be ready to listen to logic. They would think that if their children in lower classes learn something about Artificial Intelligence or Coding, their life would be very smooth and these children would reach the pinnacle of success in no time. The guardians would start day-dreaming that their children will earn in dollars like Satya Nadella or other great Indian luminaries in the computer world. They would not listen if their children don't/can't learn anything about these subjects due to lack of infrastructure or shortage of teaching staff.

    These guardians would force unwilling children to join these courses. They would coerce/browbeat children, if they want to learn new language or learn the art of writing poetry or examining architecture instead of these tech subjects. They would themselves destroy the future of their children just like the scholars finished the hapless parrot in the story of Rabindranath Tagore mentioned in my first response.

    The guardians would themselves kill the intellectual capability of their children in search of the mirage of material success.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #773715

    Points:5
    I think it will be better to review the decision taken up by CBSE Board to introduce AI modules to be taught from class six to eight so that the students are benefited tremendously with such a domain, At a glance, it looks easy enough to make the pupils understand the different basics of AI. To understand the complexities of such a decision, the Board might invite academics of various levels having full concepts of Mathematics in particular and overall impacts of such an introduction with the existing subjects meant for their classes for six to eight.
    Though CBSE Board is claiming that inclusion of AI modules are of optional in nature but what is the guarantee from the side of the school management to treat this decision in the similar manner?
    There could be lots of ifs and buts from both the sides - School Management and the Guardians to push the scheme into a more realistic way. The guardians are not aware of the complications which might arise among the minds of the students with the concurrent studies of AI and the other prescribed subjects of the curriculum. The guardians have heard highly of the benefits of AI even though are not aware of abc of such a system.
    The pupils might behave innocently and they cannot go beyond the wishes of their parents/ guardians. With the progression of time, the pupils would feel the overburden of the courses. This might put them under severe stress and in some situations, the guardians/ parents might rush to doctors to take care of their mental healths.
    Moreover the kids will be loosing their creativity essential for writing impressive essays and other literary pursuits. Imaginative skills develop the best when the brains of children are devoid of fears. Hence the parents/ guardians should examine the realistic angles before accepting such ideas which the Board Authorities claim to be optional.

  • #773716

    Points:2
    I agree to the point that Coding in some or other language can be started from 9th standard (and not 6-8th standard) but as most of the other members have mentioned, AI should be postponed until 11th standard because of its complexities.

  • #773718

    Points:5
    A teacher who teaches the subject should be able to generate interest in the student in that subject and he should be able to make students study further. For that, the teacher should have adequate knowledge and expertise in that particular area. Present teachers are not that conversant with AI and related subjects. One should remember here that many of us are users of AI but not designers of AI tools and programmes. If the subject is not properly presented to the students they may lose their interest in that subject and they may not learn also and which will complicate issues further.
    But CBSE may be able to get talented persons from the industry under the CSR scheme for a few hours a week and make them teach the subject. In the same fashion, even they may get the required tools also. Even though management allows their employees, how many of them will do that job sincerely is a big question,
    When we eat more than required it will never give us energy but we will get indigestion problems and our digestion system should get disturbed that is why we should eat as per our age and workload. The same is the case with education also. The mind should not get overloaded. Otherwise, psychological problems will crop up.
    We are hearing about suicide cases in IITs. But in the case of primary and secondary school students, it may not go up to that stage but they become aversed and also get stressed more.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773720

    Points:5
    Science and Technology are advancing at a fast pace. The whole educational curriculum has to be tuned in accordance with that development and the introduction of new topics and new subjects in lower classes is not a pattern of change but has become a necessity of the day. Childhood age is an age where whatever knowledge and information is imparted to the child it grabs it naturally. For example, a child can learn 2-3 languages very easily while an adult learning another language other than his mother tongue and English becomes a challenging task.
    So, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong in introducing some basic elements of advanced subjects or topics like AI and coding in the lower classes. Once the student learns some basic things about these new dimensions of technology then in their higher classes they can learn more by opting for it even as a regular subject.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #773722

    Points:4
    #773720,
    We cannot teach everything to a child because he grabs it naturally. We cannot bring Trigonometry and Calculus to class 6 just because a child grabs them naturally. There are some grasping restrictions on the child depending on his memory size.
    Learning a language is different and learning a complex subject is different. A child learns a language naturally because he doesn't understand the grammar part of the language but when adults try to learn a language, they try to learn it in a grammatical way. That is why it is becoming difficult for an adult to learn a new language.

  • #773723

    Points:5
    There is no doubt that the memory- power of a child is excellent and the same can be witnessed many times that a child of aged four recites Sanskrit Shloka without bothering the the inner meaning of the same content. He is fearless and so he picks up the contents fast but as he grows attending schools, he comes in contact with his teacher instructing him to follow the grammar of the concerned language. An element of fearfulness sets in his mind and as a result he becomes somewhat restrained in his expressions.
    To be an eloquent speaker is something else but compliance of grammar in his language is entirely a different matter.
    I agree with Umesh Sir in this regard but we cannot leave a child alone in such a dream world for long but with the right guidance of the institution or otherwise, we would train him to follow the rules of grammar in both the modes - written one and the spoken one.
    In matters of science and technology, where consistent practice is required to understand the different concepts, he would fail to grasp the underlying principles unless he attains the threshold age - say around sixteen. Attaining that age would enhance his thinking abilities making him even comfortable in such complex situations.

  • #773726

    Points:5
    CBSE curriculum has been designed to provide the essential details of the subjects in the friendly way so as to understand the basics of subjects with clarities. These text books must be read by all aspirants interested to appear in the competitive examinations like IIT, NEET and other competitive examination of the different institutions in either of the streams.
    In no way, they should be confused with the reference of multiple books. This could spoil their time even in searching the relevant materials for the competitive examinations.
    This should be their basic norm of grasping the basic materials for such competitive tests.
    Now consider the case of a student preparing for IIT examination working day and night engaged in such text books apart from references of other books as suggested by his mentor or his class teacher. We can well understand his plight. Going through all such text books of Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics is not enough but the basics has to be understood fully so as to make him comfortable in choosing the right answers from these texts.
    The syllabus of both Physics and Mathematics is relatively vast due to the inherent course structure. In Physics, they have to work out the numerical problems based upon postulations provided in the text books. This becomes a strenuous task if the basics are not clear.
    Now let us enlarge our concepts when the same student is practising for the modules of AI.
    While going through the mathematical problems relating to probability, the student has to identify immediately if Bayer's law or otherwise is applicable in the given case. This can be achieved through a lot of practice. While going through the expansions of series, we need to apply Taylor's theorem. While solving the portions of indeterminate form in the chapter of calculus, the student should be well versed with all trigonometrical, algebraical formulas.
    There should be immediate flashing of the connected formulas so as to achieve results.
    The issues as suggested above is not indicative of his total struggle since apart from preparing of AI, he has to keep his mind to clear his competitive test IIT.
    The whole exercise is burdensome if a clear strategy is not taken up CBSE Board when to inject AI modules.
    Hence the Board should review the timing of introduction of AI course after class eleven when the students are getting some inputs once they enter into class eleven. Most of calculus portions, Sequence and Series, Probability are taught in class twelve of CBSE curriculum.

  • #773729

    Points:5
    I would like to complete my argument in this response.
    1. Although I broadly support NEP-2020, I can't support this scheme of teaching Artificial Intelligence and Coding to students of Class-VI to Class-VIII due to lack of infrastructure in schools and non-availability of adequate number of teachers.
    2. This would hamper the intellectual development of young children and impatient parents would force their children to go for these meaningless courses in search of shortcut for material success for their children.
    3. This step may also cause mushrooming of more coaching centres for these courses.
    4. However, my view on financial literacy is little bit different. I want basic financial literacy for the children of Class-VI to Class-VIII. They must understand the meaning of saving, difference between saving and investment, banking, different types of bank accounts, post office saving schemes, Provident Funds, etc., for their own benefits.
    5. However, I don't doubt the intent of the Government in this regard; however, I only doubt the ability of schools to go for optional courses like Artificial Intelligence or Coding.
    6. Finally, I feel those members who are supporting introduction of these courses at such lower level in school, are very short-sighted and they are not considering the possible intellectual death of those parrot-like hapless children of our country.

    Thanks to all. Best wishes to the participants.
    (a) Those who have forgotten Noakhali, how can they protest Sandeshkhali?
    (b) Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it. ---------- Salvador Dali

  • #773733

    Points:5
    Although the benefits of AI cannot be denied especially in the current time where lots of jobs are coming up in this segment requiring best talents in this field. To make this goal realistic we should make every effort to make the students proficient and capable of handling the area of AI confidently with their inner Zest to shine well in this domain.
    CBSE Board should not take any harsh step which could create a demotivating atmosphere in the ways of the studies of best talented students.
    The Board should understand that growth of thinking ability takes time and this faculty works the best from the age of 16 onwards when most of students are in class eleven. They can even think of a step ahead of their teachers because of their exceptional thinking skills.
    To make them best AI experts, Mathematics plays a significant role in achieving their targets of AI especially Probability, Vector and Linear Algebra.
    I am discussing briefly how these subjects can influence their career- path in the area of AI domain -
    1) Probability-
    There are numerous extract problems in the AI Domain where the probability theory provides the experts to deal with uncertainty. To analyse the frequency of an event, the theory of probability is used since it can define as the chances of occurrence of an event.
    2) Vector-
    In the linear programming, Vector is used to deal with inequalities and system of equations for solving problems relating to Clustering, Speech Recognition and Machine Translation.
    These concepts are helpful in the internal representation of AI models like Linear Classifiers and Deep Drawing Modules.
    3) Linear Algebra-
    This subject can help the aspirants to understand Abstracting Data, and Models providing insights of Scalars, Vectors, Topology, Game Theory, Graph Theory, Linear Transformation etc.
    Burdening them with so many subjects prior to class would upset them and the Board should consider the appropriate timings of the different schedules for the benefits of students.
    I think they can cope up with the additional pressure on reaching their class level with their improved thinking skills.

  • #773734

    Points:5
    There are lots of institutions taking admission of the students in the area of Artificial Intelligence once they pass out their class twelve with Physics and Mathematics with the third paper being one of the following combinations- Chemistry, Biotechnology, Biochemistry etc provided they come out with the entrance tests arranged by one of such institutes given below-
    1) IIT Hyderabad
    2) Chandigarh University, Chandigarh.
    3) Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology, Delhi
    4) Great Lakes International University, Andhra Pradesh
    5) SRM Institution of Science and Technology, Chennai.
    6) Vellore Institute of Technology, Bhopal
    7) DY Patil University, Pune. etc
    Hence the aspirants need not think unnecessarily that they will be deprived of the opportunities provided they gear up themselves with the sound basics of their subjects taught in the intermediate levels apart from clearance of the tests of one of such institutions.

  • #773736

    Points:5
    Since the Group Discussion particularly talks about introduction of Coding and Artificial Intelligence at school level, I want to conclude my discussion with the following points.
    1) Coding should be introduced at 9th standard or more as it requires logical thinking and the knowledge of basic mathematics, which the students can acquire only at a higher age.
    2) During the introduction of Coding in schools, students should be kept away from the concept of AI. Otherwise, they will use the AI tools to generate their program codes and they will stop applying their mind during their coding practice. They may wrongly think that in future Coding may not be required as AI can automate Coding. In reality, Coding cannot completely be done by AI.
    3) Because of complex mathematics involved in AI, introduction of AI should be differed until Class 11.
    4) Before introduction of any new subject into the academic curriculum, CBSE Board or Government should take the feedback from all the relevant parties, who are directly or indirectly affected by the decision. It should not take decisions on a trial and error method.

  • #773737

    Points:5
    When I heard that NCERT removed the Peridoc table from the 9th class syllabus as the students are getting loaded heavily with the subject and already periodic table is being taught in the 10th and 11th classes. Chemistry subject is also optional and all people need not choose this subject.
    But why the same concept is not applied in the case of AI and coding subjects? I strongly feel that even some introduction also about these subjects without knowing the basic sciences like physics and mathematics teaching the student is like feeding rice mixed with pickles to a kid on the first day of consuming solid food.
    Using AI tools for educating children in other subjects is something different but teaching them the technology behind developing the tools is different. This should be known to all.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773738

    Points:5
    A little knowledge of AI may also spoil the progress of the child. If a child knows about Chatbot, he can simply type his question there and he will get the answer. That will make their lives easy. Because of such actions, people will never concentrate on their studies and try to find out easy and simple ways for their problem-solving.
    These days without a calculator even simple multiplications are also difficult for students. Some people may argue why they should spend time learning tables when the calculator is before them. But what they will do in the absence of that calculator? This point will never strike their mind.
    Teaching the child mathematics and requiring other fundamentals up to eighth class or 9th class and then introducing these subjects in 10th class may be a good idea.
    There is no necessity for them to learn about AI and even they can start learning the same in their intermediate or UG also, in my opinion.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773741

    Points:5
    Since Coding, too, has been included in the Group Discussion Forum, it has multiple beneficial effects to the students in developing their mental skills through the techniques of building codes for their computer programmes or learning the ways of making video games.
    The skills learnt in their schools can be applied to multiple levels ranging from computer skills to the their enhanced interests towards the digital use.
    The aspirants could get several benefits with the practice of coding as mentioned below-
    1) Coding could help them in the process of problem solving with use of computational thinking. Computational thinking process is a process of breaking down complex problems into a manageable ones.
    2) Coding is a way of analysing a situation or a goal to be used in course of problem solving. In that way, it enhances the creativity levels of the students.
    3) Confidence levels of the students will surely improve with the practice of Coding. Hence it would empower them to move more confidently towards their learning process with the application of coding techniques.
    Students have excellent curiosity levels and hence with the little guidance of their teachers, we can observe the positive results in their learning process of coding. This might be taken up as a starting point for the students studying in class nine for enhancing their thinking abilities and the rest portions - the tool of AI should be introduced in class eleven if the students have their passions for such a module.
    The school management and the guardians/ parents should realise the nature of burden of the students where they are overloaded with two courses ie his science- stream and the second one is the AI module. If the students are motivated towards pursuing the two courses simultaneously, it could be a different matter.
    The parents/ guardians can apprise of their wards of taking up the course of AI even after passing their class Twelve Board through the rout of entrance - test in some prominent institutions as mentioned in my earlier posting.
    The students can achieve their goals with their determined plans in realisation of their dreams of becoming AI Experts. They need to take proactive steps.

  • #773742

    Points:5
    Using AI tools in Child education is something different than teaching them and asking them to learn AI. Once they understand the ease of getting answers to their question using AI, they will never concentrate on their studies and they can use their AI application knowledge for their passing in the examination. This is nothing but suicidal. If student from high school start using them their maturity levels and thinking capacities will come down and they will depend more on AI tools for everything. So personally I feel we should not make the children get attached to these modern tools and technology.
    A recent report from UNICEF says that there will be psychological and behavioural effects on children when they start using and learning Ai in their studies. This was also supported by many scientists and some people described this AI as more powerful than a chemical weapon for destroying the generations to come. These things also should be kept in mind while teaching the child AI. Of course, coding is not that dangerous and that can be introduced one or two classes before AI is introduced.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773743

    Points:5
    There are many tools that are being used for education and these tools must not be given to the students. The users should develop skills to use them properly and for their benefit. They should be used ethically. Tools like Chatpat are not useful for students and should not be introduced to students. Is it possible to stop them when we induct these subjects into their curriculum?
    We know that many parents help their children in understanding the subject and also help them in doing their homework. But when we do that we will try to keep the children with us and explain to them how the work is to be done and if possible we will make them do that homework by taking our help. But once the children come across these Ai devices they will get the homework done by these devices and never bother to know and understand the subject. That way they will be hindering their growth.
    So AI should be taught only when the student can appreciate the benefits of the technology and use the same for their benefit but not for their downfall.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #773744

    Points:4
    I already mentioned AI has a dual impact negative and positive. But the thing we need to know is that while deciding by the NCERT board or members, they considered all its pros and cons. If it will be a bother to students then they would not decide to introduce. Certainly, it will help a part of the students, who at a very early age can decide on their career in the field of AI. There are many such examples in the computer and internet world, at a very young age, people are making remarkable history. Opting for AI and coding may add a different insight into understanding this field.


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