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    Is it a good option to live in an old age home?

    Society is gradually moving from joint famies to nuclear families. Children are going out to far off places for jobs and are not able to take care of the parents. In many cases the old parents are living on their own with the help of servants. Though in many cases money is not an issue as people have funds saved for their old age but the vital part is the care by the children and that is missing.
    All these changes in our society and lifestyle have resulted in the mushrooming of old age homes in our country and there are all types of these old age homes catering to different segments of the society. These range from ordinary to well facilitated ones charging the maintenance amount from the residents accordingly. Some of these are very costly as they charge very high amounts as well as ask for some deposits in the beginning.
    So, many people are now living in such old age home facilities but there are issues regarding food, getting isolated from society and one's near and dear, living away from the main towns as these facilities are generally in vacant lands away from the main towns, etc.

    Have you got any experience about these old age homes where your friends or relatives might be living? Can you share the challenges faced by seniors in such places? If one can afford then is it really worth to live in such places? What are your general views about these homes? Please share for the benefit of all.
  • #779526
    I don't have any experience with the comforts and woes of living in an old age home. However, there are many senior citizens residing in old age homes since they have been shifted to such homes by their close relatives such as their sons and daughters. Their relatives opine that their parents are unnecessarily interfering in their activities. In their opinion, they are creating a nuisance due to their mental disorders and their siblings want to shift them to the old age home so that their parents live in peace and so they do.
    Ironically, they forget everything that their parents have done for them including their sleepless nights during the sickness of their children. At least, they should not overlook such sacrifices of their parents.

  • #779527
    When children are living separately from the parents then parents have got limited choices. Either they manage with the help of servants or take seat in an old age home.
    For those who can afford, there are some good homes also though they charge more for that. In many big cities and around them, these homes are coming up to meet the increased demand.
    It is estimated that there are about 800 old age homes in India distributed across the states. Maximum numbers are in the state of Kerala.
    Old age home is a good place for those who can afford it but it is also a fact that there cannot be a substitute for our own homes where we have our own way of living.
    There are many other issues also that people face in these homes like food related issues, medical facilities, lack of attention, etc. One has to consider pros and cons of going to live in an old age home.

    Thoughts exchanged is knowledge gained.

  • #779528
    Living in old age homes is not a bad choice if it is an option and not compulsion. In this age of nuclear families, where children fly off to different places to make a career and to settle down on their own, we get to see so many elderly people who have no choice but to stay alone. There are options like keeping a maid servant or home nurse, renting out a part of the house or allowing paying guests etc. but security remains a main concern in these cases. So, if parents are not healthy enough and have medical issues, and importantly, if there is no one else in the family to take care of them, staying at an old age home would appear to be a better choice.

    We have different types of old age homes of which some are maintained by governments and some by NGOs/ private parties. There are homes that are absolutely free and there are paid ones too.

    I would say that selecting an appropriate home is similar to selecting a school for your child. We will have to consider many factors and interact with the administration, inmates and the local people and also people who are directly or indirectly associated with the functioning of such homes before taking a decision. We should check whether it is registered under the government as per rules, whether regular checks are carried out by government authorities, whether such homes are open to NGOs and whether free interaction with inmates are allowed, the atmosphere, facilities, quality of the staff and their attitude and behavior, the quality of the inmates, medical facilities, personal care accorded etc. before selecting a home to stay. Though the atmosphere and the individual attention being given cannot be, in all cases, said to be relative to the amount one spends, it would be good to select one after a proper study. There are many more factors that needs to be considered and I have listed only a few.

    We have heard about atrocities of different natures being committed against the inmates by the caretakers of such homes in many places and we need to be careful. Proper monitoring by government agencies must be made mandatory. It would be good to constitute a committee with prominent members from different walks of life to check and control such homes, whether government or private.

    To conclude, family will always be family. Every one of us would like to live in the cozy comfort of our homes in the company of our family members. Elderly people are just like young kids. They yearn for love, care and attention. But the vagaries of life are such that we have few choices at times. And that is where old age homes come into the picture. Instead of staying at home alone, staying at an old age home would ensure some company and also security.

    Children must make it a point to keep in touch with their parent/ parents and must visit them at regularly. If they are not in a position to visit at regular intervals, they must arrange meetings with some of their relatives or friends. Most of the elderly people would never stand in the way of their children settling down but they should not feel that they have been isolated. Let them know, in whatever ways you can, that you care. We all will become old and fragile one day and let us not wait for that moment to realize the importance of parents and parenting. Love them and hold them close to your heart. They will be satisfied even if they have some difficulties.

    (The length of the response may kindly be excused.)

    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #779530
    The main issue is that many ladies, both aged as well as young, never adjust with the other lady. Gents may not have that problem. Mainly these days in many houses ladies are more dominant than gents. So, they are the deciding persons. A daughter-in-law can't stay freely with her mother-in-law. A mother-in-law will be free with her daughters but not with her daughter-in-law. This is creating problems. The son is not able to convince any one of the two. So he is trying to keep their parents in a good old age house by paying money.

    One of my distant relative stays in Hyderabad. He is working for a good IT company and is a rich person. His father is a retired employee in Indian Railways. He gets pension. His son took a separate apartment in the adjacent apartment. He arranged a cook and he himself daily goes there and sees what their requirements are and arrange them accordingly. I feel it is better as the two ladies are independent and there will not be any problem.

    Instead of putting the old people at an old age home, keeping them separately and visiting them as frequently as possible is a better proposition. if we are not able keep them with us in the same house.

    drrao
    always confident

  • #779532
    This thread has given a good information about the pros and cons of opting for an old age home by the interested seniors in our country. It appears that there are a large number of such homes in our country and seniors can choose our of that depending upon their interest and financial condition.
    Another important factor is the location of the old age home. India is a big country and old people living in a particular place might be interested in an old age home nearby or say in the same state rather than going to a far off place. For example a person living in UP will prefer an old age home say somewhere in Haridwar or Delhi or Lucknow rather than a similar one in the far off states like Tamilnadu or Kerala or Karnataka.
    So choosing the place is also a crucial point in this matter.

    Thoughts exchanged is knowledge gained.

  • #779533
    Few days back I was reading about an old age home in Gujarat state and in that article all the positive points were mentioned about that place. Probably it was a sponsored article. They even offered a sample stay for old people to experience that facility before taking up a decision to book a room there.
    After reading the article I got this idea to float this forum post in ISC so that I can get more details about these things. Many members have added valuable information regarding this topic.
    Digging further, I found that the number of these old age homes is expected to increase as the demand for that is going to increase with time. As the rates of these homes (those which are not free) vary in the range from Rs 10000/15000 to Rs 50000/60000 per month in addition to some initial security deposit, interested old people can select a home as per their paying capacities. Some of these old age homes are also advertising and marketing about their facilities available and so in a sense they are competing with each other for the customers.
    The old age homes which are free are mainly for the old people who are abandoned and have nowhere to go. They are run by the Govt or charitable institutions.

    Knowledge is power.

  • #779535
    The subject of 'old age home' has come for discussion in this forum in various avatars and is still continuing.

    It was just a week ago that we were discussing a forum thread: "Should we depend on children for survival in the 60 plus stage" The current thread appears a follow up and a choice option answer to the former.

    Even more than fifteen years ago, in the initial years of ISC, then forumites discussed What is the relevance of Old Age Homes in India and another threadDoes having Old age homes are an advantage or disadvantage? .Probably as the matter was not so serious or rampant as now, the discussion was limited to a few points.

    But we discussed the matter somewhat elaborately in 2016 when we debated against against the topic "old age homes are the only hope of elderly today".
    There is an article "The Old Age Homes - Are they the last hope of the old people today" posted in 2014.

    The current thread author, in responding to a 2022 forum threadold age homes with a big difference had hinted "More and more old age homes are now coming up in our country in various places. …The emergence of nuclear families in a big way is the main reason for creation of this facility in our country. …" He himself had posed a question as title to his thread" Which is better in old age - living alone or living in old age home.

    The current thread has also till now elicited nearly half a dozen responses within few hours of posting. So we understand the importance and relevance of the matter.

    In one of the above referred threads, I had noted that old age is not just for the present seniors, but it will continue in future also. Hence it is a matter equally for the youth and middle aged people of today as it is to the current 'oldies'.

    Let me put it directly that the term 'old-age home' gives a negative and neglected sense , but 'senior living' gives it an elite luxury status though both are in a way consequent fall out of same reasons. The general impression is of parents 'thrown away to old age homes' but settled in 'senior living' apartments.

    So on the go we may have to deal in comparison and contrasts of both terms.

  • #779536
    There are many good old age homes in India and old people staying there are leading a quality life. A government employee who retired from service will get a decent pension, sufficient for the wife and husband to stay in such homes.
    Recently one of my known friend's wife expired. They have no children and my friend is old and he never knows how to manage the kitchen. He has his own house and he gave the house free of cost to a relative's family and the understanding is that this family will give him food and they will take care of all his needs. Now he is leading a normal life without any problems. That way if we have sufficient resources there is no issue in managing the old age.
    In Hyderabad, there are many good old age homes where the rooms are like a room in a three-star hotel and all amenities are excellent.

    drrao
    always confident

  • #779540
    Further to my response #779535 above, if I have to answer the title question -Is it a good option to live in an old age home?- it cannot be a straight yes or no.

    There is an element of 'option' in this question. Exercising an option means some freedom and choice is available. So I also concur with Saji Ganesh(#779528) when he says living in "old age homes is not a bad choice if it is an option and not compulsion.".
    Except for a small fraction of cases, even the option will have some invisible compulsion from the realization and awareness of ground realities. There will always be a hidden longing, a psychological element- giving a sort of deficiency in full satisfaction and contentment.

    In another discussion I said "Let it be a co- staying under one roof with mutual support mainly emotional support. If that is available in plenty, then it will be an ideal situation. But ideal situations do not happen always. Life is a mixture of expected and unexpected happenings. We have to learn and train our mind and body to accept both with equanimity." Even if it is an option exercised with free will, there will be the psychological vacuum gurgling out at times or always . So option of old age home is a psychological poverty amidst material facilities.

    Probably the next and further generations may be able to cope up more easily, as by then that will be a common feature of life.

  • #779548
    The author has a solution in his thread, "Is it a good option to live in an old age home." If it is an option, it is better to go for a living at an old age home. Otherwise, if it is a compulsion, no other go, it is a good choice, (not option) to go for old age home living. To the above list added by my ISC folks, I would like to include one more known as, "Assisted living homes" for disabled/80-90 plus parents other than the old age homes, senior citizen/retirement community, etc. I (myself) searched for an assisted living home for my friend's 90+ old mom, since her two brothers have commitments to go for a trip to the USA where their kids reside to take care of the grandkids. My friend's mom does not feel cozy enough to stay with her even though she is ready to take care. The assisted living home (attached to hospitals) in Chennai, which I searched has been exorbitantly charging (90,000+ per month) as it is in the city's hotspot. Now, one of her brothers cancelled the trip to care for her mother.

    As Mr. Venkiteswaran mentioned, the future generation may better accommodate the concept of retirement communities/senior citizen villas and one of my relatives, who is in his 50s, booked a villa in Bangalore to stay after retirement with his wife even though his kids are here in India. Moreover, for women maintaining households is a big threshold after 50-60 of age whereas men (previous generation) are reluctant to share the household chores. and I would like to go for the option of seeking a serene living after a certain age.

  • #779561
    Venkiteswaran and Bhavani have analysed the matter in more details and I thank Venkiteswaran for digging out all the old threads in the matter and consolidating them.
    The cost of assisted living is on the higher side and might be beyond the financial capability of many but in case of ailing person that becomes necessary.
    This thread has brought out many good points related to old age living and as I was also searching for a suitable one, it has immensely updated my information.

    Knowledge is power.

  • #779564
    Umesh@ #779561 "This thread has brought out many good points related to old age living and as I was also searching for a suitable one, it has immensely updated my information."

    Of late this idea has also creeped into my head. Though nothing is needed now (God forbid any such situation), am thinking of an alternative investment or provision and as an abundant precaution , to invest in a senior living facility. It is just a bud of thought and have no yet come to any deal or finalization.
    My idea is at this stage if to invest in a flat or house let it be having some extra facilities for a possibly better convenience for life at old ages. That way this thread also can help me in more inputs.

  • #779580
    I believe staying at an old age home at some point (it might be a saturation point for some senior citizens) is feasible irrespective of gender, health, or wealth issues, but what type of old age home and mindset always matter. For instance, one of my relatives in her 70s, who lost her husband in an accident is living with her single son, who financially sounds good, but my relative is emotionally weak, attached much to her son making things worse, and her daughter-in-law is not at all compatible with her living as a joint family. She wants to stay at a good old age home with comfort as she is now, but her son never listens to her, does not want to spend money on old age homes and she is humiliated by her daughter-in-law. If she is financially independent she might have decided on her own to choose an old age home or a flat in a gated community.

    One thing is clear from this example detachment from attachment makes one's life smooth and peaceful. I would suggest once parents complete their commitments as parents they should detach from so much attachment towards their kids and live their own life to enjoy the rest of life in a more cozy way.

  • #779589
    In the above post #779580 Bhavani has concluded with statement "One thing is clear from this example detachment from attachment makes one's life smooth and peaceful. I would suggest once parents complete their commitments as parents they should detach from .."the emotional urge to stay with their children and grandchildren. Easily said but difficult to snap the emotional tie.

    That was very clearly suggested and followed in the life of our ancestors .They used to prepare for such conscious detachment for starting "Vaanaprastha" by going on pilgrimages(Theerthaadanam and Kshetraadanam) whereby they can allow their children and family on their own as well as not be depending on them. Some of them can take up Sannyasa life also in due course.
    We can treat 'old-age home life as the modern Vaanaprastha" life.

  • #779594
    Living in the old age homes for retired people is not a bad choice if he has a decent fund by way of accumulated money from a provident fund and is entitled to a pension from the service. They want to have a peaceful life after their retirement but the same is not possible when living with their their children because of their cold approach. Even the grandchildren show their apathy to the senior people.
    They can choose the option of shifting to an old age home located in different cities such as Kolkata, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Rishikesh, Haridwar etc for their peaceful shelters. In such places, they can have excellent company to share their emotions to make their retired lives a a meaningful journey.

  • #779597
    Above responses have enriched my knowledge about the old age homes and I understand that a good affordable old age home is a good choice in the present situation where many children are, due to whatever compulsions, not able to take care of their parents.
    This is the reason why number of old age homes are mushrooming in our country.

    Thoughts exchanged is knowledge gained.


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