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    Points:5

    When the youth are trained well wonders can happen

    Twelve migrant laborers, of which eight are from Orissa and the other four from West Bengal, have been trained so well to lay the tiles in every new house. Apart from this, they are also good at electrical work. The twelve function as a team and are ready to work for eleven hours on any given day. Since the materials are purchased and made available by the house owner who builds the independent house, the work gets done much faster than would otherwise be possible.

    This is the story in Sholinghur, a small town where I live at the moment. Well, a well-trained person had trained them so well and within six months they are able to speak fairly good Tamil. One of them seems to have been around for quite a while and in fact, teaches the others some more Tamil, particularly the kind that is useful in dealing with the hardware people.

    They are paid very good wages and live together in two rented houses in a nearby village. They save at least Rs.3500 per month and send that to their wives. Each of them owns a smart phone, purchased in installments through the influence of their contractor, and most of them have even paid the entire amount in advance.

    Their living standards have improved so much, that at least eight of them are planning to bring their families here. Since they are quite unique, the contractor uses them even in built houses for basic electrical work, where they earn a decent salary. The contractor, a Tamil, encourages them, as they are very honest and sincere in their work. Thus far, not a single complaint about integrity has been raised in the three projects completed and the fourth they are currently working on.

    We need such training to be given to hundreds of thousands of people. Even today, it is so difficult to find a trained electrician, only because they are always in demand in the huge Chennai metropolis, a mere 90 minutes from here, by train.

    The real demographic advantage of India can happen only if such micro level studies are undertaken and youth are trained to do a good job. After all, there is no language problem, since they are keen to learn Tamil.

    Let this case study of success repeat itself all over.
  • #779981

      

    Points:4
    Please do not misunderstand my query as my intention is not to criticize. But, Sivakumar, would it be any different if twelve Tamil youths are given training in the same way and they are guided properly to earn a decent living? My point is simple. You have raised a thread that is, I feel, generally applicable to all the youth across the country and may be even the world who are looking for some employment. Then why get into such specifics? Let us not forget that immigration in search of jobs started long back and what we see today may be considered just as a reverse flow and nothing more.
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #779985

    Points:5
    The author has highlighted the training part and has wished that same model is to be adopted across the country. My view is that it is already happening across the country. I am living in Maharashtra and lakhs of unemployed people from UP, Bihar, West Bengal, and Odisha are here who have learnt many trades locally and are in high demand and earning good amount of money and sending it back to their families. Some are even driving autos and some have got the job of security guards.
    Tamilnadu, Karnataka, Maharashtra, etc are some of the states where people from Northern state come for employment and most of them get it. In hotels and restaurants there are many cooks and servants from Northern states as well as from our neighbouring country Nepal.
    Today getting a good job has become very tough and competitive and the people coming to other state for it are ready to undergo any traing or practice in addition to learning the local language.
    In our country this thing has happened massively. The author has presented the same in a management way by depicting a case study and that is one interesting way of presentation.
    Knowledge is power.

  • #779993

    Points:5
    In our country there is a good demand for the people who can undertake small jobs like plumbing, electrical repairs, common household gadget repairs, gardening, supplying household items, cleaning of utensils in hotels or small eateries, municipal cleaning works, helping staff in shops, labourers in various construction sites, general labourers, etc.
    In all the states these people are in demand but the only difference is that in some states they are paid very less while in some they get good amount and that is the main reason why so many of them leave their states and go to the other states.
    These people are generally HSC or UG pass and have no further academic ambitions inside them and want to get a job of any kind. They live in shared accommodation, prepare their food themselves, and send money home for their families.
    They learn the job quickly and do not require any formal training. Some of them are already certificate or diploma holders. Mostly they learn the job by seeing others who are there in that field for quite some time.
    Thoughts exchanged is knowledge gained.

  • #779996

    Points:0
    The author absolutely taking up a great matter which is really a needy one to our country in the present scenario. It is not new to our country as the new era started by Swami Vivekananda, Netaji Subash Chandra Bose. Later after independence to our country, the scene changed to a great extent. But now our country lost its cultural characteristics to some extent. As stated by the author, the youngsters are to be tracked in a well path. Especially the children are to be taken to the temples and Moral instruction classes to be introduced in Schools and colleges, parents should talk with them freely as the three are not found present families.

  • #779999

    Points:5
    In my area, there is an electrician who attends repairs and other works in the houses. Initially, he was coming alone and doing the work and after some time another boy from neighbouring started coming with him. He got trained and now he is attending repairs on his own. But both of them started together taking up the electrification of apartments etc. They took another two assistants and all four are working as a team and the new boys are getting trained. People who are interested in learning the skills will learn the skill while working with some skilled people. This is very natural and happens in many places.
    Today I am in Bhilwara, Rajasthan and visited a manufacturing facility. There one person from Hyderabad who had experience was recruited and 10 local young people were taken as helpers. All these ten are getting trained under supervision and learning the skill and after training all these workers will be given independent work.
    Once the person gets trained, he can go anywhere and work. He can earn easily his livelihood. Young people who are having interest in the job only will learn fast and excel.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #780013

      

    Points:8
    I don't think this can be a case study to prove that youth can do wonders if trained properly. Rather, I can say, it would be a classic example for the bad state of affairs in all parts of the country where poor people, young in particular, are getting exploited by employing them for our labour works which we can't get it completed by our local people.

    Coming straight to the point, all the Civil servants and Management trainees of various PSUs and Banking sector do get selected in rigorous selection process and these younger lot get trained properly before getting into action into Public service. How many of them are doing wonders?

    So. it depends on the personal character and loyalty. Even the said 12 young people in this thread, what is the guaranty that they would continue the same spirit and won't change their stand once they get settled?
    Regards,
    Jagdish

  • #780020

    Points:4
    Jagdish Patro has raised a very valid point that some of the young people are being exploited in that manner. Yes, this is a fact and young people have no other choice because in their states they are not getting even that kind of money.
    Today we have a big population to feed but jobs are limited and hence people are moving from one place to another for getting a job.
    It is a simple demand and supply position. Today more manpower is available and the employer can take advantage of that. We might call that as exploitation.
    Thoughts exchanged is knowledge gained.

  • #780029

    Points:3
    Some exploitation is also taking place in many small private industries. Some organisations take some young people as trainees with very minimum salary and continue them for one year and make them work one year with the same salary. But due to the unemployment problem, such people are working. As mentioned by Jagdish we don't how long these people continue to work vigorously. They will also look for alternatives and jump there once a chance comes.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #780034

    Points:5
    Employment issue is a great problem at least in our country due to fewer employment opportunities for various jobs. Be it a permanent one or a temporary one, youths have to struggle hard to get a job of their choice. We have already witnessed that public sectors have already stopped the recruitment drive for a long due to the oversaturation of manpower in almost all public sectors.
    Though there are vacancies in the organisations, the same is not being reviewed for absorption from the different sectors. Under such a situation, youths are compelled to go such states where they can get employment as drivers, electricians, and hotel boys in the states of Karnataka, Maharastra, Tamilnadu etc from their states like Jharkhand, Orissa, West Bengal etc. This is a chronic issue and needs to be resolved with the administrative machinery.

  • #780136

    Points:5
    A fact that I forgot to mention is that for some reason or the other, none of the twelve has crossed the eighth standard,at best. They were all extremely poor and according to them,for similar work they are paid very less in their States. I really do not even understand the district they are referring to.

    They manage to save some money and most of them Gpay the money to their families. It is quite interesting to note that they are well trained now. Regarding their sincerity and honesty, we can only understand from the feedback given by the contractor and the house owner in this case. Too many commercial buildings and houses are being built everywhere. So, the heavy demand for these trained people is always there. It is just one case study. Their living standards have vastly improved. They jell so well with the locals because they are so trust worthy. The General hospital is an award winner in its category. So, for basic health facilities, there is no problem at all.

    They are aghast when they see too many thousands of educated people out here. However, they also inform that educational standards in Orissa have improved drastically now.

  • #780146

      

    Points:0
    Sivakumar, have you answered my query? Please!
    'Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all'.
    -Aristotle

  • #780159

    Points:5
    In a true sense, the local labour shortage in the construction sector is prevalent in most of the metros and the states in our country and Tamil Nadu is one of the states tackling hard the issue of shortage of skilled labour in this sector. Most of the local skilled labourers in plumbing, electrical works, painting, etc., migrate to countries like UAE, Singapore, and Malaysia for better earnings. Moreover, labour in construction field seems like a desert due to wages not being at par. Low-paid wages force them to move abroad where they can earn sufficiently to manage their livelihood.

    I don't know why the civil and structural engineering core is not given due respect in our country. The governments, (central or state), should streamline the construction industry with stringent measures, creating more skilled employment and decent payouts. The civil engineering curriculum needs revamping to include these skills as part of the core subjects in engineering.

    As Jagdish Patro mentioned it is merely a bad state of affairs and exploitation of the poor, uneducated public.

  • #780326

    Points:5
    Saji Sir, I beg to disagree with you. For one, none ( with a few exceptions, though) from the four Southern States who would train themselves as AC mechanics or electricians or plumbers or those with some slightly skilled expertise as described in my thread, would ever work in any of the Hindi States, where the wages are very low.

    They find gainful employment right here in Tamil Nadu or Kerala or at best in the big metros. The AC mechanics,, as a rule, earn much higher. So, your point regarding reverse migration is just not true. The South Indian educated folks landed in Mumbai and New Delhi in the early 1960s and have become integrated with the local urban culture of these places. In fact, my own relatives are married into mallu families, where the women dress up more like Punjabis.

    That aside, there has been a huge expansion in the distance education stream through the likes of Annamalai University, which had resulted in the very high education levels in Tamil Nadu and in Kerala. Today, every single day, i refer at least ten mallu girls and boys for BPO jobs ( I do this as a hobby and not for money) in Chennai and smaller centers. Most of these girls are very good in their work, and pick up English, though with a Malayalam slant.

    So, the situation described is more for the uneducated, untrained Hindi-speaking folks, who do not understand one word in English. It is not true of every youth in the country. About the world, my knowledge is zero. I cannot comment on that.

    I do hope I have clarified something to the extent possible. As long as the communal polarization continues and the entire lot of Hindi speaking believe in the most stupid argument that English would be gone and only Hindi will take its place forever, the same situation would continue. On an average, every Hindi fellow employed here, talks to at least three people held up there ( the elders and those who still live there) and tell them juicy stories about the ecosystem here in South India. The change that you have now seen in the local polls is the tip of the iceberg.

    The same mantra cannot work forever, unless it has an economic logic. For instance, the social justice mantra so famously talked about here, has lead to a huge empowerment of an entrepreneurial class, most of whom are at least graduates, now dominating every single profitable business. For instance, the dealers of tiles, that get sold every single day. Do you know that the food for these people in the big metros like Chennai, comes from the NRIs?

    How is this possible. That fellow sitting comfortably perched in the USA or Europe, happily pumps in sixty hundred thousand rupees to buy a flat for his or her parents in the outskirts of Chennai, which now extends up to 100 kilometers in the South. Even emergency medical services are available within just a five minutes drive, in most cases. So, the story in the thread mentioned is not applicable for all youth.

    Now comes the most interesting part of the story. Well, 98 percent or even one hundred percent of these entrepreneurs are from the BCs, OBCs and the MBCs and the SC and the ST communities. Even a single word uttered against these educated people can land a person in jail. Such is the situation here. Everyone respects the Brahmins and the so-called other upper caste people, and the caste barriers are slowly going away. There is so much of socialization in gated communities and social gatherings and so on. This goes beyond religion as well. This is precisely why the caste-oriented conflicts are not so common among the educated in Tamil Nadu.

    There is a very complex social and political change that has changed every thing out here. Well, to answer Mr. Patro, it is not a big exploitation in the construction industry, as the Hindi folks are paid quite well, and they also earn well through overtime. As mentioned earlier, through numerous social media posts, the Hindi-speaking folks still being exploited in the name of religion by one major political party, cannot continue for ever, and the story of the developed South is now being told by the millions who now even have families out here. A few are entrepreneurs as well.

    Am afraid, the migration of the Hindi folks will continue for another decade, at least.

  • #780327

    Points:5
    Now, to come to the other point where exploitation really happens. Not every Hindi-speaking fellow ( commonly called Hindiwallahs here) is employed in the construction industry. Hundreds of thousands of them are employed in the middle-class hotels and restaurants as waiters and those washing vessels. Since the hotel lobby is very powerful, the exploitation stories do not come out at all. Simple. The local bigwigs eat free food in these hotels.

    Now, there is indeed exploitation, as they are given just Rs.180 per day plus free food and some sort of accommodation, where even up to eight people share a single toilet and one bathroom. Their living standards are just about ordinary. Reportedly, they send home some Rs.1800 per day, according to some sources. May be, a little more.

    In big cities like Chennai, am told, they are paid Rs.250 per day, in most hotels, apart from free food. They vanish for three months during the Diwali period and during this period, some sort of substitution takes place. Even in Sholinghur, in north Tamil Nadu, where I live, the wages in agriculture, where the Hindi folks are employed, are Rs.285 per day, plus free lunch and two cups of tea or coffee and also free accommodation, where even ten fellows stay in one pucca house, in the nearest village. The rent is paid by the landlord.

    Well, even this is much higher than what these guys hope to get back in their places, including Orissa and West Bengal. Those who become trained cooks and prepare the oily items like the bajji or the potato bonda and so on, in the smaller shops in Chennai, get Rs.300 at least, plus free food. They work on contract, and not for the full day. Their maximum working time is around six hours in the evening or in the morning. This is what I was told.

    In other cities and towns, more or less, the same situation prevails. However, in some cities, the locals dominate. For instance, in Coimbatore city, every small snack centre, selling the oily snacks for just Rs.6 to Rs.10, can be found in every street, but the Hindi folks are not employed here. They manage to get employed in the hundreds of small engineering companies that supply to the big companies.

    The story goes on and on. Whatever I have written, is based on information gathered from the ground. It is from my own observations and feedback. I really do not find time to do this continuously.

  • #780341

    Points:5
    I have a small point to mention here. I am not in agreement with the statement made by AB Sivakumar regarding the migration of people from southern states to other states. Many Tamilians are found in many private industries in UP, MP and even Rajasthan.
    Recently I visited some manufacturing units in the above three states and in all the factories I visited I saw people from the South working in various capacities starting from a Manager post to a workman post. Even people from Telangana and AP are also there in those units. The management there is not interested in appointing local people and they pay good salaries and even quarters to stay. So I feel this cross-flow here to there and there to hers can be seen.
    I feel we can't generalise the issues based on our stray observations. To come out with a valid inference the sample size should be high and there should be a scientific sampling system also.
    drrao
    always confident

  • #780344

    Points:5
    Rao Sir. With due respects let me add that the numbers are a mere trickle when compared to the torrent of Hindi speaking untrained and unskilled labor that have migrated to South India in the past two decades. Sir, we seem to be having close to one crore of Hindi guys working in Tamil Nadu and a similar number is reportedly already there in Kerala. On the contrary, the highly educated folks from South India may be found in some small numbers in North Indian companies.

    Even here, it is reverse migration now. Please do go to any auto major that has manufacturing plants in the entire city of Chennai. You will find too many Hindi guys, who are all engineers or MBAs or engineer-MBAs, chartered accountants and so on. The Hindi workers will also be there, though mostly on contract jobs in the sub-contract companies. The only company of the TVS group that connects directly with the customer -- TVS Motors -- has started to employ some Hindi labor only because of labor shortage. Yes, the same company does employ quite a big number of Hindi speaking educated folks.

    A few hundreds are different from the hundreds of thousands.

  • #780348

    Points:2
    That is what I have mentioned in my post. The statement we are making should be supported by data which gives evidence to the statement. Now you have mentioned some numbers. How we have arrived at these numbers is also important. The source of information is very important.
    drrao
    always confident


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